cmayernik
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From: virginia
Registered: 2009-05-14
Posts: 4
Please create a option to view On and Kun readings when Reviewing. I add these to my Anki and I can't believe you guys don't have at least one or two readings. What a waste of your time. Please. add this option because I believe most people should be learning the readings or at least getting their mind familiar with them as they go through heisig. Maybe they don't get them perfect but a couple will stick and that will help.
Chris
vosmiura
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From: SF Bay Area
Registered: 2006-08-24
Posts: 1085
Hyreia, I get what you're saying. You can make some connections like that.
I think the best way is to just finish RTK1 as soon as you can without much sidetracking, and then move on to learning vocab & reading, because then you can make thousands of connections between kanji & words and readings fairly quickly.
It's quick to learn 魔 = "ma" and 法 = "hou" thanks to knowing "mahou". So, learning words is the key to learning readings quickly, is what I believe.
Last edited by vosmiura (2009 May 25, 4:24 am)
Nukemarine
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From: 神奈川
Registered: 2007-07-15
Posts: 2347
In addition, he's asking for the "OPTION" to view On readings. Seeing that an ENTIRE BOOK is dedicated to learning Onyomi (RTK2), it's not outside of what this site offers to allow users the option of seeing a Kanji's onyomi on either the question and/or answer side of the card.
This is still a self study site. There should be options to aid in the method we choose to self study. It's that reason that greasemonkey scripts are so popular: We can change/adapt keywords, do reverse cards, add fonts such as stroke order, change order we learn, etc. Being dogmatic to RTK1 I would argue goes against the spirit that RTK1 came about.
Plus, as the Movie Method threads have shown, it's possible to combine learning Kanji with RTK methods along with readings via Kanji Town methods.
Thora
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From: Canada
Registered: 2007-02-23
Posts: 1691
I suspect the prickly reception in this case had more to do with the way in which the request was made than the fact that it was made. (Please reread OP). lol
I see a difference between plugins for individual customization and a option featured on the site. There's a risk that new users will be tempted to add *all* the On readings without fully understanding the pros and cons. I foresee some confusion: some will assume they are meant to memorize the readings too, others will wonder how exactly to incorporate them into their stories, and others will be perplexed by multiple readings. etc etc. The same rationale exists for not making Japanese keywords an option at the outset.
RTK2 teaches readings in compounds, not in isolation. (So I'm not sure I understood your point, Nukemarine.) Heisig recommends not combining RTK1 and RTK2: "I wash my hands of all responsibility for the result." 
We don't really have evidence that the movie method is a better route to go. We have no evidence (other than cmayernik's certainty 
), that a quick glimpse of one or two readings for every kanji while reviewing is the better approach.
In other words, informed individual fine-tuning strikes me as a better approach than a wholesale dump of all on-readings at the flick of a switch. As it stands, people can easily add readings or vocab to their stories or to the keyword.
Surreal
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From: Sweden
Registered: 2009-05-18
Posts: 325
Interesting thread, I thought I'd drop a link to http://www.hellodamage.com/kanjidicks/main.htm in case any beginner's see this. It's basically a book for learning kanji with mnemonics and all, only it's filled with humor - not suitable for everyone obviously - all the way through and (the main reason I never used it) makes heavier use of 'phrase' learning. It comes with on yomi integrated in every mnemonic. The whole introduction on the main page makes for good reading even if you don't decide to use his method and hey, alternatives are nice.
Hey. even if you only glance at the reading, that's still a little bit of time that adds up as you go through them and worse, you're prone to get your mnemonic for the actual kanji messed up. Of course, if you still think it's what's best for you then go ahead and do it tandem.
I'll throw in another vote for the plugin method, seems like the better choice.. I like the simplicity of koohii and if you're a motivated student you want to do it "right" and "completely" so there would probably be a buncha suckers activating the on yomi because hey we can't just do it the easy way all the time naw we're learning kanji fo reals. Use rikaichan or the program of your choice if you wanna get some of that yomi action.
Last edited by Surreal (2009 May 28, 2:05 am)
