You implied my list was too British for you, an American, although half of my list was American things.  If something deriving from another country is a problem for you, then I pointed out the bible is from another country.  We were talking about Heisig and his book which he presumably wrote for others to read.  We weren't talking about whether bible stories are easier for you to remember, only if they were generally easier.  A lot of people here think they are not, or have no knowledge of those stories at all.

I don't think he weighed the sensibilities of his target audience at all.  I think he just wrote down stories that he found useful for himself.  You can see how this is not as effective as tailoring stories to the general populace.  He's a religious scholar, and so he knows a lot of bizarre Christian minutia.  The general populace does not, from any country.

reading the Bible in Japanese is a really good way to practice your reading skills... even for those of you that are not Christian, reading is reading right?... i really recommend this one in particular: http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-English- … mp;sr=8-20 it's entirely in furigana and covers both the old and new testaments along with side by side English translations... i read through it a lot and i am surprised how much i can understand out of it... i may mine it sometime in the future

$75 for a Japanese Bible???  HOLY ****!!!
I got kind of excited for a moment.  I read the Bible several times as a child and it would be interesting to do it again in Japanese with side by side English translation but JEE!  Original price $125?  Was it hand written with real octopus ink?  It is New International and not King James so my old church back in the Bible Belt would consider it suspect.

I'm sure you could find a Japanese Bible online and set it up next to the English version(with the firefox Split Browser addon). I wouldn't be surprised if there's already parallel texts out there. The only problems would be no furigana. Rikaichan and dictionaries don't always tell you the right readings.

This topic is almost as schizophrenic as I am. @_@

I'm sure there's much more interesting ways to practice reading then reading the bible....

bombpersons wrote:

I'm sure there's much more interesting ways to practice reading then reading the bible....

Again, dumb/incorrect statements like that just show ones arrogance, RTK 1 uses some biblical references here and there, doesn't mean you have to exaggerate and say you're "reading the bible".

if you read the Bible in Japanese though, you'll be using words like あなたがた　in no time
there are plenty of he said this and he said that sentences as well... good back and forth conversations between Jesus and his disciples and other people too...

plumage wrote:

With regards to Heisig, RtK was created way before the internet, so one man by himself in Japan back when it was written has only so many references to go on.

<PEDANTIC>

No, the Internet was alive and well when Heisig first sat down to study Japanese.

</PEDANTIC>

The World Wide Web is another matter however.

Did I miss an intoleranct post somewhere in this thread aimed at Heisig?
People are begging to be offended today.  Somebody needs to step up and help them out!

2728 譬 parable
"It is not what enters into the MOUTH that defiles a man, but the SPICY WORDS that proceed out". -Matthew 15:11 (I use little yellow FLAGs to mark my favorite parables).

I am guilty too! 

Last edited by bodhisamaya (2009 May 07, 2:57 am)

cracky wrote:

onafarm wrote:

A small number of posters here appear to have hardly had an education at all.

Anybody notice people always start using obscure words when they call other people dumb?  I wonder if it's a subconscious thing.

Which word is obscure?

I agree with bombpersons though, having been force to read the bible as a kid, I have simply no interest in it. Or perhaps since I have read a lot of it, and heard people talk about it a lot, there is simply no curiosity for me to wonder what's in it... even in Japanese.

If it makes anyone feel any better, Satan is featured prominently in many of my stories, I can add those to the site here.

bodhisamaya wrote:

Maybe not obscure but vitriol sounds rather snobbish.
Don't use a big word where a diminutive one will suffice

I'm not familiar with that rule. There's nothing snobbish about using all the language options one has at one's disposal and if that happens to leave some lexically-challenged folks out of the mix, that's the way it goes.

bodhisamaya wrote:

Effective communication uses language that most effectively allows what is in one's own mind to be understood by others.  Choosing the most accurate word is not always to most intelligent use of language if it fails to accomplish that goal.  It's just comes across as mental masterbation.

1. Your "definition" of "effective communication" is tautological (sorry) and based on the lowest common denominator which is not what everyone aims for.

2. "masterbation" is spelled "masturbation"