Heisig method causing dreams to get more imaginative.

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wishroom Member
From: USA Registered: 2009-03-22 Posts: 52

As everyone is aware the method requires imagination and I think it's carrying over into my dreams.  I'm almost up to 300 and the past 4-5 nights I've had crazy dreams...borderline nightmare.  Is this commonplace in the community or what?

Squintox Member
From: Toronto, Canada Registered: 2008-07-27 Posts: 292 Website

I had a lot of lucid dreams while doing Heisig which I don't get anymore >_>

mafried Member
Registered: 2006-06-24 Posts: 766

I don't know about nightmares, but I've had more livid dreams for sure.  A side effect of exercising your imagination muscles I guess..

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Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

I haven't noticed any difference at all... but I've been very imaginative since I was a kid so I don't think using the Heisig method changed much for me.

Codexus Member
From: Switzerland Registered: 2007-11-27 Posts: 721

I don't think it's specific to Heisig, but intense mental activity during the day seems to stimulate dreams or at least make them more memorable. I've noticed that effect with learning Japanese, programming, strategy games (囲碁、将棋), etc. Also I've read about similar experiences on many internet forums so that's apparently very common.

wishroom Member
From: USA Registered: 2009-03-22 Posts: 52

That's true, straining your brain for anything would cause it.  As for nightmares I usually play a few games at night, which is probably to blame.

ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

I've noticed that reviewing cards with affirmations or other positive statements just before going to bed influenced some of my dreams, pretty cool smile

I imagine doing a lot of kanji the Heisig way, especially if your stories tend to be first person, can also influence your dreams. That's why personally I 'd use that proactively with something like affirmations, and as for remembering the kanji, I always preferred to use stories that are not related in any way whatsoever with my relatives, family , friends , etc; contrary to Heisig's advice about the "person" primitive.

Reply #8 - 2009 April 21, 3:45 pm
stoked Member
From: Switzerland Registered: 2009-01-09 Posts: 378 Website

I had the most amazing sex a few days ago. In a dream, that is. Must be Heisig.

Reply #9 - 2009 April 21, 3:53 pm
Tarah Member
From: Czech Republic Registered: 2009-04-10 Posts: 14

Tobberoth wrote:

I haven't noticed any difference at all... but I've been very imaginative since I was a kid so I don't think using the Heisig method changed much for me.

Yep, same here smile

But from experience (one particular dorama translation) I can say, that after spending some time doing nothing else except for this, it started plaguing my (day)dreams big_smile - from some minor stuff like suffering from LSS syndrom (timing the opening karaoke was a pain in **) to actually talking to the characters in my dreams big_smile And since dreams have this really awesome ability to make even the most unbelievable things seem totally normal, I ended up actually enjoying this (nightmares don't seem to be my case smile )

Reply #10 - 2009 April 21, 4:52 pm
brianobush Member
From: Portland Registered: 2008-06-28 Posts: 241 Website

I have had many weird (borderline nightmarish) dreams, which have been slowly non-recurring. I guess it is the mind trying to reorganize memories and patterns to accommodate the oncoming flood.

That farm house nightmare with corn everywhere was really getting to me though...

Reply #11 - 2009 April 21, 5:28 pm
yukamina Member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-01-09 Posts: 761

When I do something new(new language, new job, too much new anime) for a long time in one day, I tend to dream about it. Especially if it's shortly before I go to bed. The other night I watch this bizarre Russian animated movie, and the sounds and images turned up in my dreams.

Reply #12 - 2009 April 21, 5:40 pm
Gingerninja Member
From: England Registered: 2008-08-06 Posts: 382

i wish i could explain why north korea (altho ther flag was russian) invaded my village(was the layout of my village but full of skyscrapers).. but i cant but thats why dreams are awesome.
that dream did somehow follow on into me using Japanese in a dream for the first time (that i can recall)  i while running away ran straight into someone knocking them over and apologising for it,
ok later it also had something to do with stealing the queen mothers painting of a rug from big ben and living in a hotel full of refugess...  yh someone read into that for me please..

All this immersion is affecting dreams but then so does anything you do for a prolonged period of time.

once during a nasty bout of the flu  i saw the phantom menace for the first time, and then proceeded to dream about star wars for the next 2 nights (id never seen star wars b4 that). well when i say dream i could open my eyes at anytime and immedialty go back to where i left off  (the benifits of illness i guess) and the amount of warcraft inflicted dreams i cant even count (recovering addict.. )

But since starting this Japanese quest of mine,  i've dreamt in subtitles albeit with english speaking,  bits of japanese is creeping in.   i can't say heisig has done anything specifically.  but dreams are your subconcious mind just messing around with you and anything thats been filed into your mind for hours on end beforehand gets regurgitated someway.

Reply #13 - 2009 April 21, 10:40 pm
igordesu Member
From: Wisconsin USA Registered: 2008-09-22 Posts: 428

That's really sad.  All you people are making me angst; I can never remember my dreams. sad  ....

Reply #14 - 2009 April 22, 1:56 am
Rina Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2008-11-24 Posts: 557 Website

Well, in the last 5 days I had two nightmares. And I rarely have one.

Reply #15 - 2009 April 22, 2:29 am
ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

@igordesu : Remembering dreams is not very difficult, it's just practice. You must go to sleep with the intention of remembering your dreams. This creates a small autosuggestion, that helps you remember to remember when you wake up. When you wake up, stay quiet on your back and just lie there, don't try to force, if you don't remember ANYTHING at all, just lie there without your mind wandering about the tasks of the day just enjoying the quiet for a couple minutes, kind of making a space for memories to come. Eventually a little thing comes up, then another. If you do that at least for a week, you will very likely start to remember parts of your dreams. Mind is very subtle the intention si very important, if you go to sleep thinking "I can't remember my dreams" then it most likely won't work.

Reply #16 - 2009 April 23, 8:58 am
Machine_Gun_Cat Member
From: auckland Registered: 2009-01-22 Posts: 184

I keep having bad dreams that trees I like get cut down.

Reply #17 - 2009 April 23, 12:49 pm
drivers99 Member
From: Alamogordo NM Registered: 2009-03-31 Posts: 141

Last night I woke up in the middle of the night thinking that I had discovered the perfect method to study kanji which I think I was just dreaming about it from doing all this learning.  I think that it was if you use a wacom tablet could draw the kanji on your computer over a picture of the kanji you want to write well.  You could draw over an outline of the character so that you would learn by muscle memory how to draw it to look nice with the proper shape of the lines.  I'm still not sure it's not a bad idea.  I could probably test it out in photoshop.  I think I had the ideas because I'm trying to copy the stroke order animations from Yamasa Online Kanji Dictionary, and I had too much caffeine last night.  I was thinking if you could also incorporate the character drawing into the review process it would be almost perfect.  I was also thinking it would be cool to do this along with a game, except the game would be designed with Heisig and SRS in mind so that you are reviewing in the optimum order and with the optimum frequency for you.  Somehow the game would be able to use the keyword and not just be random monsters that you fight like in a program I was looking at called JRPG.

Last edited by drivers99 (2009 April 23, 12:49 pm)

Reply #18 - 2009 April 23, 6:03 pm
Walden Member
From: England Registered: 2008-08-24 Posts: 13

Machine_Gun_Cat wrote:

I keep having bad dreams that trees I like get cut down.

Oh.. Dear God...

It's just things like this... I just can't carry on anymore, you know?

Unbelievable.

Reply #19 - 2009 April 23, 8:42 pm
Machine_Gun_Cat Member
From: auckland Registered: 2009-01-22 Posts: 184

I'm serious it's really depressing, I also have deorestation dreams and global warming dreams they suck.

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