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Yo, hang on for 10 more days 
with RTK only.
Then give yourself 1 week or 2 for the kana, then go for the sentences.
Ah, you probably can start listening to Jap already.
mentat_kgs wrote:
Yo, hang on for 10 more days
Then give yourself 1 week or 2 for the kana, then go for the sentences.
Ah, you probably can start listening to Jap already.
Heck, at the level of effort he's currently putting out, a weekend to learn the kana wouldn't be infeasible.
Also I definitely second the suggestion to start listening, if you aren't already. It's a lot of fun starting to pick out more and more words- even though I haven't attempted an iota of active vocab acquisition!
I also think I've read somewhere on this forum that around frame 1500 you should be able to start reading and mining sentences, if you don't want to wait.
Keep up the great pace! :-)
Last edited by blackmacros (2009 April 19, 9:05 am)
jorgebucaran wrote:
Hahaha
good one.
Who's laughing? You know, you mentioned in another thread that you would like to go study martial arts at a temple. When you get there the monks will probably make you stand for a few days in a ridiculously tortuous stance and laugh at you. Depending on how mean they are they might beat you with sticks or throw stones at you if you come out of your stance.
What's learning 50 more Kanji a day compared to that? Remember, this is kung fu for your brain!
Of course I jest... the monks will probably not do this, they certainly will.
stoked wrote:
Should I have used Anki from the beginning? Well I will never know. But I will understand when I use it for mining sentences.
Naw, I started out with RevTK as well. It's great. I just prefer having everything in one deck: Japanese, French, Greek Mythology, etc. I love random changes in review sessions, they keep me focused. So for me it's Anki. It looks like this:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8210/ankiq.png
2 is the shortcut for hard. If you fail a kanji and then get it right in the second round and press 2, you'll see it again the next day, even with cycle elimination...
Pretty much outdated (9 days ago), but I love that stroke order diagram !
Where did you get that from ?
I'm trying to do 100 a day. I can't though because I have to do a research on unemployment for the sociology class (big work 
). But I try to learn as much as I can. I think I'm on frame 180 or so. (since Saturday), and I have some questions.
I'm getting the whole idea of learning the story, and it's working (for some kanji at least, for the ones I already knew I don't even bother). Kanjimood, you said you only though of the story like 3 times a day. How's that possible? I think of the story far more times until I can remember it.
I can already recognize the kanji I know when I see them, but I can't recall sometimes the keyword. Is this normal? When I review I only learn the new kanji until I know the ones I failed in the review. Should I do it other way?
Other than all the school work I have to do (and it's a lot) I try to exercise a bit everyday and that also takes time, as I also wish to play a bit of Nintendo DS's GTA CW, when I ride my indoor bike I play it and exercise at the same time, but I wish I could stop the time anyway lol.
Crap, I had more questions, but as usual, I forgot them.
CarolinaCG wrote:
I think of the story far more times until I can remember it.
Are you actually seeing the story in your mind? It's not about remembering the stories, it's about being able to have a vivid image of something which might help you remember which kanji the particular keyword leads to, why the kanji looks like this etc.
CarolinaCG wrote:
I can already recognize the kanji I know when I see them, but I can't recall sometimes the keyword. Is this normal? When I review I only learn the new kanji until I know the ones I failed in the review. Should I do it other way?
Just continue going in the keyword->story->kanji order, recognizing it in kanji->keyword will come later, don't worry 
And even if you know some kanji, it might be better to make up some story too, because this way you won't forget them as easily. I know a lot of kanji, because I didn't start with Heisig method right away, however everytime I recognine kanji I know, I try to come up with a story or recall the one I used back then.
Anyway, good luck!
KanjiMood wrote:
CarolinaCG: Two or three times a day at separate times yes. There's no need to think about them until you remember as that's not what SRS is all about. Learning by trying to remember everything short-term is inefficient compared to SRS. I don't get a real good grip on most characters (form and story) until the following day when I see it in my SRS app.
And yeah I think its normal to not always remember the keyword. That will improve when we start reading sentences.
That happens to me too. I can only recognize the kanji the following day after having learned it, course I can remember some in the same day, but having lots of troubles.
Tarah wrote:
Are you actually seeing the story in your mind? It's not about remembering the stories, it's about being able to have a vivid image of something which might help you remember which kanji the particular keyword leads to, why the kanji looks like this etc.
Yup, there's a thread called "one kanji, one picture" that same thread is helping me a lot, I see the stories in my mind a lot faster, not because of the image there, but because of the sentence for each kanji. 2 days ago I thought I couldn't see it, but now I can, and it sure works better.
Tarah wrote:
Just continue going in the keyword->story->kanji order, recognizing it in kanji->keyword will come later, don't worry
And even if you know some kanji, it might be better to make up some story too, because this way you won't forget them as easily. I know a lot of kanji, because I didn't start with Heisig method right away, however everytime I recognine kanji I know, I try to come up with a story or recall the one I used back then.
Anyway, good luck!
Okay, I'll do that for the hardest ones I've already learnt, since I forgot some of them. And this is where RTK rocks
I can't wait to have the book on my hands! I'll order it tomorow, hopefuly.
Thanks KanjiMood and Tarah!
Gahhh.... I did the first 60 today.
I so wanted to do more, but I now realize my mornings are tight. -.-
I'm motivated to make time for Kanji learning, so I'll set up my morning schedules differently now. My only problem, was my grandmother passing, and going to her funeral yesterday. Emotional stuff + pile up of homework that kept me up till midnight + tight morning schedule = not as much Kanji as I wanted to do. I felt like I could do more. It's really rough.
Well, I'm going to write my sentences, as you suggested, Kanjimood. I already wrote the Kanji, keyword, and primitives by them, but it didn't feel like enough. It felt like I was just trying to rush through them all. My first plan was to go through them with Kanji, keyword, and primitives, then later go to Anki and fill it all in, my sentence-creativity being at work there, but I soon realized that was hours of work that didn't need to be done.
I'm starting to make goals though. Like, I want to finish all the Kanji THIS month. 
That might not happen, but it'll help motivate me. After that, I want to mine 1000-2000 sentences in the next month(already having the kana 85% under my fingers. I just have some trouble with katakana, but that was because I rushed through it a while ago. Remember never to rush through things. It never helps), while listening to Japanese tv/music the entire time. And in the summer it'll be much, much higher. But, my two long-term goals for now are these:
1.Become able to hold conversation with the exchange student I'll be hosting next year.
And
2.Become able to hold my own in Japan, when my Japanese class makes a trip to Japan for two months next summer.
Obviously, I wont be that fluent at all at that time, but I wont be alone in Japan, so....
Anyways, I'll keep working on my schedule. I'm working into the very early morning hours tonight, to finish the first 100!!!
Brokenvai wrote:
I'm starting to make goals though. Like, I want to finish all the Kanji THIS month.
1.Become able to hold conversation with the exchange student I'll be hosting next year.
And
2.Become able to hold my own in Japan, when my Japanese class makes a trip to Japan for two months next summer.
Obviously, I wont be that fluent at all at that time, but I wont be alone in Japan, so....
Anyways, I'll keep working on my schedule. I'm working into the very early morning hours tonight, to finish the first 100!!!
An inspiring post I should say. I too have a tight schedule, lots of homework and etc, but still, I wanna finish this book in this and in the next month (or less, hopefully). I divided my goals:
1st: 500 kanji
2nd: 500 kanji
3dr: 500 kanji
4th: the rest.
Next year (summer 010) I'll apply to a exchange program, 5 weeks in Japan with a host family, by then I'll be in an intermediate level (since after RTK, I intend to finish Genki 1+2+workebooks and an Integrated approach).
Let's learn Kanji! Go go go!
