Because I don't have kids I don't really understand it myself, but one thing people are worried about is things being exposed to children.  Many people are worried about their own children in particular.  Nevertheless, I agree with you. 

It's hard for me to say whether it is good to prevent kids from seeing certain content.  More difficult is figuring out which content should be filtered, and when it is appropriate.  However, I can still agree with you without knowing these answers because I think that parents really don't have much of a choice in the matter.  As long as technology progresses at a certain pace, and that technology is providing a wide range of different content available to everyone, and the way to use the new technology is innovative, there's no way parents can keep up.  Somehow you have to face the fact that your kid is gonna see more awful, great, sexy--you name it--things than you've ever dreamed of (if he/she chooses to do so).  As long as kids understand the technology better than you do, they'll get whatever content they want.

I also fail to see how a dirty story is going to destroy anyone's moral foundation.  All and all the morality we choose to follow is probably not based on when we were introduced to dirty stories.  Just a thought.

Last edited by Tzadeck (2009 April 06, 9:58 am)

Oh no!, Not that debate again! /o\

Some of us find 'sex' stories to be vulgar and distasteful as well, even ignoring the 'children' angle.

Even trying to make the site child-friendly is stupid and dangerous. The minute you present yourself as that you open yourself up to lawsuits as soon as something, no matter how small, slips through. If you really wanted to go that route you'd need to hire moderators to watch the stories & forums 24/7.

Being non-offensive is another thing, but everyone has a different level of tolerance.

I think there are a bunch of wierd religos using this site, because I also often see things reported which contain evolution, sacrifice, paganism and other things along those lines

Machine_Gun_Cat wrote:

I think there are a bunch of wierd religos using this site, because I also often see things reported which contain evolution, sacrifice, paganism and other things along those lines

There are a few yeah. Sometimes they get in Jesusy arguments on the forums.

I got a couple of Mormon missionaries at my door today, and as usual, they left as soon as I told them I am a Zen. They asked me if I believe in God and I said I'm Zen and that'd be depending on how they define God and they left! Dude wait, I want to talk with you about your God! But yea, talking to a Zen guy about God is pretty much waste of their time as I would probably ask them things like definition of God and Heaven and Time and Space and start saying things like I and you exist but we really don't, existence is illusion and illusion does exist, and so on. I understand.

Wait, what was the point?? yea, there is a saying in Japanese
毒にも薬にもならない
if it doesn't offend anybody, it will be tepid to everybody.

Sorry, this is so irrelevant but I couldn't resist. I blame wccrawford for
putting 'sex' in quotes. I'm a weak man.

aaronvanvalen wrote:

Well the thing is, you stress exactly why they are useful for our study method and I feel any sort of restriction or impediment on that for the sake of moral reasons (which are pretty much irrelevant to our goals) is just silly.

Especially since thinking of sex as something dirty is a very Christian (well, Abrahamic)-centric way of thinking in the first place. I believe the famous penis festival just happened recently in Japan, so clearly they aren't afraid of HOW IS BABBY FORMED.

Last edited by Jarvik7 (2009 April 07, 3:24 am)

Let's see. You are sugesting that we create 2 ways to rate stories?
1 for how offensive it is, 1 for how christian it is not?

wccrawford wrote:

masaman wrote:

Sorry, this is so irrelevant but I couldn't resist. I blame wccrawford for
putting 'sex' in quotes. I'm a weak man.

lol  I put 'sex' in quotes because many of the 'sex' stories have little to with sex and more to do with just body parts.

As for them being easier to remember...  I don't find vulgar things easier to remember.  I just find them vulgar.  I certainly don't -want- to remember vulgar things.  Good stories that aren't offensive will be remembered better than offensive ones.

So... if it isn't a good story for you to use to be able to remember the kanji... just don't use it? Basically by saying that, I should go and mark the red exclamation mark for every story I don't find useful for me. Why not just ignore and move on with your life. Of course I don't know if it actually is you flagging them though... I was pretty sure the flaggin function is only to be for copyrighted stories already used by Heisig. Flagging will probably only draw more attention to them anyway and hurt anyone trying to 'save the children'.

'Vulgar' things are 'easier' to remember sometimes because they are unique and get an emotion out of you that sticks, for me at least, pretty sure no one has a desire to make all their stories vulgar for fun. Though I agree there can be 'vulgar' stories that arn't necessarily 'good' stories for the purpose of remembering the kanji.

Last edited by cloudstrife543 (2009 April 07, 8:42 am)