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Reply #1 - 2009 March 22, 9:15 am
SammyB Member
From: Sydney, Australia Registered: 2008-05-28 Posts: 337

Does anyone have, or know how I can get a list of the kanji from 2001KO in the order that they appear in the books?

I own the books and realise that they are in the back, but I don't have a scanner...

Can anyone help? I've got some ideas about using anki to learn the iKnow Core6000 in the Kanji Odyssey order (which as others have identified in other threads, makes more sense). Yet the problem is that even in this order you constantly get cards which have words using kanji that you haven't learnt yet...

I know some just ignore those other words and focus only on the one using the "target kanji"... but I think this is losing half the benefit of doing sentences in the first place, you may as well just be doing vocab cards in some ways.

So, I've been thinking, there is a plugin for Anki that lets you suspend cards with kanji that you don't know readings for yet. In this way could you can ensure that every new sentence is always i+1. But the plugin needs a list of kanji. At the moment its default is a list based on frequency, but we want to learn words in a sytematic fashion using Kanji odyssey order...Anyone else getting excited?

All we need is a list of the 2001KO kanji.

Reply #2 - 2009 March 22, 9:29 am
NickT Member
From: London Registered: 2006-12-16 Posts: 109

I have it. It is quite long to post in the forum... do you want me to email it to you or something?

It only goes up to 1100 kanji though... if you want a more complete list, maybe its better to use the one from Kanji In Context?

Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

Nick, in the back, they list over 2000 kanji in the KO2001 order ie with thematic grouping.

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rich_f Member
From: north carolina Registered: 2007-07-12 Posts: 1708

I had a really easy way of dealing with the random advanced kanji they stuffed in the sentences. I *didn't* ignore them, I learned them. I just looked up the vocab in the yahoo online dictionary, grabbed a few *short* sentences, made cards for them, and added them to the pile. It slows down your progress a bit, but you don't have to suspend 50% of the KO cards. The vocab you wind up learning keeps showing up later on, anyway, so learning it when it shows up will serve you pretty well.

Reply #5 - 2009 March 22, 6:59 pm
SammyB Member
From: Sydney, Australia Registered: 2008-05-28 Posts: 337

Nick, how did you get that list? did you scan it?

I really need the full set for it to be totally useful, but if you can't get that then what you have would still be helpful. If you could email it to me that would be much appreciated!

Sam.

Reply #6 - 2009 March 22, 7:00 pm
SammyB Member
From: Sydney, Australia Registered: 2008-05-28 Posts: 337

rich_f wrote:

I had a really easy way of dealing with the random advanced kanji they stuffed in the sentences. I *didn't* ignore them, I learned them. I just looked up the vocab in the yahoo online dictionary, grabbed a few *short* sentences, made cards for them, and added them to the pile. It slows down your progress a bit, but you don't have to suspend 50% of the KO cards. The vocab you wind up learning keeps showing up later on, anyway, so learning it when it shows up will serve you pretty well.

But, as you said, it slows you down. This way you would still learn those words, just in way that will make them easier to remember when you get to them...

Reply #7 - 2009 March 24, 9:50 pm
SammyB Member
From: Sydney, Australia Registered: 2008-05-28 Posts: 337

*bump* Guess I'll just have to give up?

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