But porn does exist where people use umbrellas....i won't go into anymore detail. Things have got stuck, this guy got his penis stuck in a park bench in china somewhere (internet news). I think its a fairly good story, unfortunately it doesn't go with a nice image but i guess it works.

I think captain planet doesn't need to exist on these forums because it aint really pollution, vulgar stories work.

Though the guy could put a warning sign, eg see my story for "immerse" 1149

This could be easily solved by posters self-tagging their stories as potentially offensive, and have the site display it spoiler style (select to reveal text).

Or sort stories descending by most popular. Problem is that some offensive stories may be popular.

liosama wrote:

well i didnt know that dude posted that many stories. I only ever do 1 or 2 per every hundred kanji, and thats when i really have a hard time for a certain character.

He doesn't post for every kanji (thankfully).  But every story he posts, no small number, either, is along the same tired vein.

I'm certainly no Puritan.  But I'm here to accomplish a goal, and this person seems to be here working on a completely different goal.  Maybe it's merely because he has gotten used to, and likes, taking Rorshach tests?  ^_^

I'll bow out now at let you veterans and the admin sort it out.  I've had my say.  I just hope these can be removed from the very top of the list when one studies a kanji.

I had not noticed that, and it's certainly better than nothing.  Number 252 is now easier to study.

^now that's a great idea.

I myself have loads of very sexual and violent stories myself, I even made a thread about it a while ago.

ファブリス wrote:

Guys, I take note, and will get down to it but have to finish the code rewrite first. I'll have to implement something before a possible RevTH anyway, since the same problem would be there.

I'll look at deviantArt, if you have other examples of websites which include some kind of filtering, especially on stories/written text, that would be useful.

I'm very busy right now on a brand new review page. I've slipped past my end february target date for the refactoring but I didn't really plan for a backend app which I've done, and a completely remade Review page (working on right now). Since everything else is more or less done at the rate it's going I'm pretty sure I can publish the refactored site before end of March. So I will look at this in April.

Mea culpa for making your 'To Do' list even longer.  And once again, I clearly see the value in the occasional bawdy story.  It's simply that a few people have, IMHO, crossed what should be rather obvious civilized lines in terms of, well, flogging the bishop until he's dead. 

An author can get bawdy without every single posted story being about foreign objects rammed or jammed or shoved into a single bodily orifice.  You can get bawdy without being crude, in fact.  That takes a little more imagination, is more interesting to read, and almost surely is more memorable.  Bawdiness works because it insults the mind, which Heisig suggested is a good idea.  But overdone, and overdone so crudely, it no longer insults imaginary memory, it just insults, period. 

I'm not Japanese of course, but I also find the repeated racist objectification of "J girls" (and it's always J girls, not any other girls) absolutely puerile, and something that should be thoroughly discouraged.

Thanks for a very fine site, however, all the work you have done, and all the work you have planned.

Raichu wrote:

Even Heisig himself uses racist

Can you give an example of a racist Heisig? I cant seem to recall one...............

I am entirely in support of "Wally".  There's nothing wrong with some bawdiness and sexual innuendo but the kind of story that started this thread is racist and offensive and I believe that trumps any argument about the value of its effectiveness.

I have no problem with people making up really disgusting stories on their own but why are they made public?  I really wonder why people feel the need to publicize them. I would be embarrassed to be publicly identified with a story like that even under the cover of a site pseudonym. 

Wally also makes a good point about how it often seems to be "J-girls" who come in for the honors from such brilliant story makers (not just by the poster of that #250 story--too much of a certain genre of anime or AV on the brain?). I wonder how much brouhaha there would be if people started making stories with the N word, or similar derogatory language targeting a racial group.

Last edited by markal (2009 March 03, 5:51 am)

markal wrote:

I am entirely in support of "Wally".  There's nothing wrong with some bawdiness and sexual innuendo but the kind of story that started this thread is racist and offensive and I believe that trumps any argument about the value of its effectiveness.

Agreed.    At the moment, however, there are limits as to what can be done about it. 

People have discussed setting up a system (beyond 'reporting', that is) to flag potentially offensive stories, and that may do the job.  But that will take time; so in the now, as far as I can tell, you've got two options.  You can attempt to contact the source of the story directly, send a personal email to request that s/he keep such stories private, etc.  That's one way. 
Or you can take the less aggressive route.  Discourage anything you find offensive by  reporting it and/or avoiding it when you see it--and get rid of it as fast as you can by putting up solid stories to take its place.

Edit: typo.

Last edited by zanzibar (2009 March 03, 6:20 am)

Meanwhile, here's a ignore users greasemonkey script.
You can customize the ignore list by editing the file.

Spaces, within the quotes.
ignore_list = "nickname1 nickname2 nickname3";

I don't think this site ever claims to be above some form of "safe for kids" standard. In fact, I'd say it's pretty obvious that users are allowed to share any stories they want.

When using the internet, the responsibility lies with the person by the computer. If kids use computers, it's the responsibility of the parents.

Some people have an easier time remembering with vulgar stories. What has to be decided is, what is the most important? That some 10 year old can safely use the censored site, or that people can share the stories that actually worked for them and might work for others?

I say the openness is important, it isn't the responsibility of fabrice to control the stories and hints. HOWEVER, I find Jarvik7s suggestion to be a good compromise which lets people who want vulgar stories have them, without forcing it on people who do not.

Last edited by Tobberoth (2009 March 03, 5:29 pm)