The 1,000+ Expired Cards Club

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Matthew Member
From: Purgatory Registered: 2006-03-20 Posts: 84

I'm at 1568 expired cards at the moment. sad

I took 1-kyuu a couple of years ago but didn't pass, and I haven't been doing much actual studying since then.  Now I'm trying to get back into the swing of things so I can take the test again this year, but have a long way to go with my expired cards... anyone else in a similar spot?  If so, you too can join the 1000+ expired cards support group. smile

Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

1950 expired cards. I win. (I stopped using the site to review)

Last edited by Jarvik7 (2009 February 21, 6:27 pm)

captal Member
From: San Jose Registered: 2008-03-22 Posts: 677

1200 expired in Anki- I just got sick of seeing Kanji that I've never seen in real life, and I live in Japan. I've started going through RevTK lite to see if that'll make a diffference, and I'm trying the site this time instead of Anki. It's sad because I spent 3 dilligent months doing RTK and now I've forgotten a lot. I'm not sure the time was worth it when I really wasn't learning Japanese, just character meanings.

Last edited by captal (2009 February 21, 6:33 pm)

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Ryuujin27 Member
Registered: 2006-12-14 Posts: 824

Jarvik7 wrote:

1950 expired cards. I win. (I stopped using the site to review)

Haha, me too. Now I just place them in the first pile as I learn them but never review... I like that counter on the main page, telling you how many you have left per lesson, etc.

Matthew Member
From: Purgatory Registered: 2006-03-20 Posts: 84

Jarvik7 wrote:

1950 expired cards. I win. (I stopped using the site to review)

That's cheating! :p

Copycatken Member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-05-28 Posts: 33

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2741/expiredstack.th.png

I had 1844 expired cards, and that was from about 3-4 months of no reviewing (and not because I switched to anki wink).

By the time I tried to get back into RtK, I had already forgotten so much that I just wiped the deck and restarted from scratch sad.

yukkuri_kame Member
From: Florida US Registered: 2008-05-30 Posts: 185

I recovered from over 500 expired cards, with about a week of earnest work, so don't despair.  Just stop adding cards, do 20 at a sitting a few times a day.  You'll be all green in no time.

radical_tyro Member
Registered: 2005-11-19 Posts: 272

been there and back maybe 3 times. gl!

cloudstrife543 Member
From: tallahassee Registered: 2008-10-26 Posts: 82

I have about 100 reviews that I do a day right now and I just finished RTK yesterday with 1544 in 4 or more reviews. 1000 is like 10 days, but I think I could plow thorugh at least 500 in a day because I know I would need to get it done.

hknamida Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2007-08-16 Posts: 222 Website

1505 expired cards, due to having switched to Anki.

Reply #11 - 2009 March 01, 12:39 am
Delina Member
From: US Registered: 2008-02-12 Posts: 102

Haha, nice thread smile

I was there at the beginning of the year (1300+ expired). I didn't have much motivation to review after I finished adding new cards, so I let it slide since October or so.  I just now caught up. It was tough, but I remembered a lot more than I thought I would. The first few review sessions were terrible, but then my brain finally got back in the kanji groove and my retention rates now are about the same as before, if not better (because I am reviewing mostly Box 4+ cards).

P.S.: Copycatken, I love your avatar smile

Reply #12 - 2009 March 01, 1:09 am
liosama Member
From: sydney Registered: 2008-03-02 Posts: 896

at ~500 expired cards, ~200 failed cards, i removed roughly 200 cards (from ~1200, now ~1000) as i didnt want another big pile of 200 untested cards.

ill get around to it someday

Reply #13 - 2009 March 02, 1:46 am
MeNoSavvy Member
Registered: 2008-05-24 Posts: 131

Every now and again I get the newsletter from my old university. It is full of stories of graduates who have gone on to achieve great things. Unfortunately in the decade or so since I graduated I didn't really achieve much. But reading those stories made me feel like a loser.

Sometimes when I read this forum, I also feel like a loser because people seem to be mastering japanese at a great speed, and zooming through heisig in a few weeks.

Fortunately this thread came along and I realize that for a lot of people learning japanese is a struggle too with lots of false starts. So thanks for reminding me that not everyone can master japanese with ease !

Reply #14 - 2009 March 03, 5:18 am
tibul Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-07-17 Posts: 110 Website

I cant imagine the horror of seeing so many expired cards I missed a day of sentence reviews once and even that was a shock.

Best thing to do to avoid slipping is make it a daily routine like brushing your teeth big_smile

Reply #15 - 2009 March 03, 6:05 am
deathspi Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-03-07 Posts: 34

2053 expired cards.
I'm a bad person sad

Reply #16 - 2009 April 27, 8:48 pm
Hyreia Member
From: Missouri Registered: 2007-12-27 Posts: 12

Edit: OOPS, Necropost...

I forget to brush my teeth all the time...

Incidentally, I was without internet access for a few days. And even before that, I had neglected a few days. I'm still in the 1600s, but I've gotten 500 expired cards (and the same 10 forgotten cards since I stopped reviewing). I *will* review these. I haven't given up. I've dug myself out of a similarly large hole. I agree, it's not impossible. You just have to tackle it. Since I've stopped reviewing though, I've noticed less and less cards get added to the expired stacks. It makes sense, the ones that expire more often are the ones I forget from reviews, since I'm not reviewing, they don't get put back into the system.

I'm about halfway to the 1000+ Expired Cards Club, but I don't intend to join, at least not yet.

Last edited by Hyreia (2009 April 27, 8:49 pm)

Reply #17 - 2009 April 27, 9:16 pm
alyks Member
From: Arizona Registered: 2008-05-31 Posts: 914 Website

Hey guys, 1225 due.

Reply #18 - 2009 April 28, 12:13 am
Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

Remind me, does it count if you switched to Anki?

Reply #19 - 2009 April 28, 2:08 am
kazelee Rater Mode
From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

Does Anki have expired cards?

Reply #20 - 2009 April 28, 4:27 am
Sequa Member
From: Germany Registered: 2006-11-02 Posts: 40

I will join, 1534 expired

Reply #21 - 2009 April 28, 6:07 am
ghinzdra Member
From: japan Registered: 2008-01-07 Posts: 499

Honestly I stopped worrying about reviewing....
Once I got all those stories in my head  I just took on formal stuff (like KO2001 or KM) and native stuff (like berserk , deathnote , fuji news network ) ....Reviewing takes care of itself through reading and anki-mining-production
The story and the keyword  is just a shortcut , as heisig acknowleges himself,  remember ? actually even shortcut is an understatement : it's more like those two little wheels on the side of the bycicle  or like the crutch for the tough football player who got  his leg broken ? do you still need the wheels once you know how to ride a bike ? do you steel the crutch once you're healed  ? on the contrary it's crippling you more than anything else. You can't move as fast as you should.

The anti heisig are definetely right when they say that kanji don't mean s.... if there's no connection with vocabulary . Now I just see vocabulary for most of the kanjis  ,  often the story  and  once in a while a keyword . When I stumble on a brand new kanji I just get a look at the story I laid out monthes  before and everything's back in my head in a a couple of minutes. I use the story and the keyword for some weeks and eventually it just become the same as the bulk I learned : I don't even bother to remember an arbitrary keyword of wich I have no practical use for and that just gets in my way. I intend to speak and understand japanese like a japanese .I don't even think it's useless to review , I think it's harmful   . RTK is just a gate for total foreigner : why should we always wait on the threshold even for a single second ?  we're not newcomers anymore.

so there's 2023 expired card in my reviewing the kanji stack and I don't intend to change that....in my opinion the community is far more worth of attention.

Last edited by ghinzdra (2009 April 28, 6:15 am)

Reply #22 - 2009 April 28, 6:37 am
harhol Member
From: United Kingdom Registered: 2009-04-03 Posts: 496

kazelee wrote:

Does Anki have expired cards?

It has "due"cards, which are basically the same thing.

Reply #23 - 2009 April 28, 8:27 am
chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

harhol wrote:

It has "due"cards, which are basically the same thing.

Well then 2200+ in my on-yomi Heisig deck (because I had a break for over a month now ...) ;__________;

Reply #24 - 2009 April 28, 8:37 am
Paludis Member
From: Australia Registered: 2008-04-27 Posts: 24

2023 smile

I don't really find the need to review kanji individually anymore, sentences pretty much takes care of it, and I don't really care if I forget kanji that I've never seen used before anyway.

Reply #25 - 2009 May 24, 3:11 am
Harrow Member
From: Eugene OR USA Registered: 2008-08-26 Posts: 122

571... I keep trying to claw my way back and my fail rate is high enough that it makes things worse (because some many go back into the fast-cycle early piles).  I have to say it is comforting that I haven't hit 1,000.... long weekend so maybe I can hack the pile down a bit at a time.