stoked wrote:

It's Saturday. I won't go out and learn Japanese instead. Love it.

that's sweet!

my turn now, too!

stoked wrote:

frlmarty wrote:

stoked wrote:

It's Saturday. I won't go out and learn Japanese instead. Love it.

that's sweet!

my turn now, too!

I did all my reviews, plus 40 new kanjis. And some grammar.

Oh, and I watched 千と千尋の神隠し and yeah, good day. Next: ねこぢる草 ...

Wow guys, that's a big encouragement for me! I memo about 30 kanjis daily O_o ONLY, I thought that was some good effort, now starting today until next sunday (when uni starts) I'm gonna work really hard on my Japanese 50 Kanjis + japanesepod101 or grammar , thnx guys, again!

undead_saif wrote:

Wow guys, that's a big encouragement for me! I memo about 30 kanjis daily O_o ONLY, I thought that was some good effort, now starting today until next sunday (when uni starts) I'm gonna work really hard on my Japanese 50 Kanjis + japanesepod101 or grammar , thnx guys, again!

o.o
How can you memorize 50 kanji a day? How's that possible? Do you memorize the meanings/readings or just the kanji (considering you're studying from a book, if not, forget it)?

Thanks!


I'll start memorizing like 5 to 10 kanji a day and repeat the process with those same kanji during 3 days or so.

Last edited by CarolinaCG (2009 February 01, 2:07 pm)

Tobberoth wrote:

CarolinaCG wrote:

undead_saif wrote:

Wow guys, that's a big encouragement for me! I memo about 30 kanjis daily O_o ONLY, I thought that was some good effort, now starting today until next sunday (when uni starts) I'm gonna work really hard on my Japanese 50 Kanjis + japanesepod101 or grammar , thnx guys, again!

o.o
How can you memorize 50 kanji a day? How's that possible? Do you memorize the meanings/readings or just the kanji (considering you're studying from a book, if not, forget it)?

Thanks!


I'll start memorizing like 5 to 10 kanji a day and repeat the process with those same kanji during 3 days or so.

Maybe you have misunderstood what site you're on? If you use this sites SRS system and Heisigs book, you can learn as many kanji you want a day as long as you have the time. Several people on this site learned 100 kanji a day.

He answered ya! And I failed :s I memorized 47 kanjis only and didn't review yet:s well tomorrow I'll try doing better:)

CarolinaCG wrote:

How can you memorize 50 kanji a day? How's that possible? Do you memorize the meanings/readings or just the kanji (considering you're studying from a book, if not, forget it)?

How can you not? If you're on vacation you could easily do 200+ per day once you get your system worked out and a rhythm down.

cjswanson1355 wrote:

200 a day easily?

....

I was doing 100-150 a day during my summer vacation with plenty of time for naps, messing around on the internet, videogames, cooking, cleaning, going out with friends & gf, a trip to Korea, climbing Mt. Fuji, JLPT study, Korean study, etc. If I cut out the naps I could have done more, but Osaka humidity saps my strength.

The hardest part with doing so many a day is doing the reviews. You get hundreds of expired cards per day. I just always woke up at about 5:30am, cooked breakfast for the girlfriend, cleaned up, did all my expired cards & failed cards from the previous day, then took a nap for a few hours.

I think a lot of people can't handle a fast pace because they just spend too much time doing prep work that isn't worth much. I never wrote the kanji at all when learning them (only during expired card reviews), I never wrote any stories down on paper or in the revtk system, I never spent much time making sure my stories were super good (if they sucked too much I'd end up failing the card and improving the story on the next review. the stories are meant to disappear soon after you start using the kanji, so why put so much effort into them?), I never did any drilling or anything before adding to revtk, etc. It took me maybe 30 seconds per kanji tops. Basically I put my faith in the SRS. I made smart use of time too. Since my study method was simple I could do it anywhere: waiting for a train, riding the train, standing in line to get onto a ride at USJ, etc. I do the same thing now for Anki cards. I rarely just sit down and go through them. I just do it in bits & pieces with my time that is normally wasted waiting (/w iAnki).

Last edited by Jarvik7 (2009 February 07, 9:17 pm)

A hundred Kanji a day? Maybe that's the kind of radical challenge I need. Otherwise this is going to stretch out forever and I'll end up giving up. But 100/day means RtK1 by the end of the month, RtK3 by mid March. Tempting...

J

Machine_Gun_Cat wrote:

These people don't think much of Japanese learning... however they are only simple folk
(most of them suck at guitar, trust me I know... they post recordings )
make special note of the spectacular fail of one member regarding Kanji definition
(I'm taking the piss by the way with the topic... I don't really go on that forum much anymore and I know exactly what gets them wound up )

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/sh … &pp=20
*cries over the lack of support for Japanese learning*

I'd trade my Japanese to be able to draw & paint REALLY well. There is more money in it

Machine_Gun_Cat wrote:

^Tbh

I don't draw or paint REALLY well yet, I'm always trying to learn

however to produce a piece of work that you're really proud of that's good enough for other people to like you have to work for HOURS and don't get all that much return for the MASSIVE amount of output.

However... The ability to cast images of whatever the hell you want onto a piece f paper and express all your ideas in a way that's visible to everyone is pretty awesome

I'm a more down to earth person. I wouldn't make "art" with my ability, I'd just sell my soul to advertisers or some corporation.

timcampbell wrote:

Anyway, to finally contribute on topic, I really love the sound of the language, and its diversity, from the super cute, to the harshness of samurai and the way yakuza roll their Rs, from the over-politeness of keigo to the really direct and casual Japanese you can use with friends.

Though being semi-fluent in French and speaking basic Chinese, neither language has given me the "Oh my god that's such a perfect word" feeling as often as I get with Japanese. I think 赤ちゃん, roughly translated as "little red guy" is the cutest word for a baby you can come up with. It almost wants to make me have a third child just so I can use it (wells up with emotion).

I love the sound words, how hair flows さらさら、how skin is そんなにつるつる、how frogs jump ぴょこぴょこ、and how you get all ぐちゃぐちゃ in the rain.

And despite other posts on this site despising the use of English loans words, I really love how Japanese, not just as a language, but as a culture, takes what it can use from outside influences, and then converts it into something uniquely Japanese - as it did with Chinese kanji, and now with European loans words - and to adapt it in such a way that foreigners can no longer make the connection with their own language. Like ぱそこん, which wouldn't get you very far here in an electronics shop, or even コンセント、which, if you don't know it and can't guess, is a wall outlet (shortened from concentric plug - which in English we shortened to plug)

And finally, I suppose, the fact that it's so absolutely different from English gives a great sense of wonder and accomplishment once I'm able to crack open the language. Neither French nor Chinese forces you to think in such a different way as Japanese does. I love the thought process in Japanese, and I get disappointed when I have to switch back into English.

So when I tell people I study Japanese for 6-7 hours a day, they say, "Wow, what a hard worker," and I'm like "No, I'm having the time of my life."

What a great motivational post! Thanks! Absolutely right, no other way to learn such hard language as Japanese if one is not motivated by passion. Now let's see if I find it in me to build up the effort to 6 hours a day. I know though that, if I do, a couple of years from know I'll be very proud looking back and will have no doubts that it was worth it

J

Got this from a Japanese girl three years ago when I left my homestay in Vancouver. Beautiful.



Thought I'd share.

Last edited by stoked (2009 February 26, 3:28 pm)