fergal
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I find it hard to come up reliable images involving "words", "saying" or "speech". Perhaps because a lot of my other stories involve someone saying something already.
The radical looks a bit like a jack-in-the-box and it's certainly a vivid object.
Does anyone have any opinions on whether it's a good idea to adopt it or is there some hidden pitfall I'll run into later (I'm currently at about 570)?
Ben_Nielson
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Knowing the.. real... meaning of the radicals can also give clues as to what the Kanji might mean. Not always, but sometimes 
Regardless, I think remembering the Kanji's more important. If it doesn't work for you, find a different mnemonic that does. I kept with words/say but did have my fair share of problems with it. Maybe instead you could make it the image of a famous speech you're really familiar with? Then associate all those Kanji with that radical with that speech.
Anyways, if you go with your route (Jack in the box) you won't hit any conflicts with that specific primitive name through RtK1 (all I've done, I went on my own after that) and I would think it would stick better than say/words does.
Last edited by Ben_Nielson (2009 January 04, 8:37 am)
Katsuo
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Overall, it's a good idea to change some primitives to stronger images because it often makes remembering the characters much easier.
Possible pitfalls are:
1) You may get confused if you don't do it in an organised manner
2) You usually can't share stories with other people
3) You may unwittingly choose a word used later in the book
Like the example in Tobberoth's post, I try to use an alternative which is related to the original.
So for 言 "words, say," etc. I chose "keitai" (portable phone). It's related in both meaning and shape: You "say" things into a keitai, and 言 looks a bit like a keitai (first stroke is the aerial, the "mouth" is the bit you speak into).
Having said all that, I think jack-in-the-box could work well too.
liosama
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There aint no problem using that. I personally used words because it was so simple and i associated it with anything written down, spoken, or said.
to me, 'jack in the box' seems too concrete, i cant see myself making any story with it.
edit: typoes
Last edited by liosama (2009 January 04, 9:33 pm)