Some thoughts on RtK and Anki reviewing styles

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Ben_Nielson Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-12-19 Posts: 164

Wasn't sure where to put this, so I created a new topic.  Sorry if there was a better place for it. smile

http://e.imagehost.org/t/0229/rtk_anki_stats_finished.jpg

I finished RtK a bit ago, but really just wanted to give people a look at this screenshot.  It's my Anki progress with RtK 1...  I used a premade RtK deck and added my own stories to it, so "First Answered" means the first time I studied the cards. 

My progress, doing RtK from start to finish in two months.  Most of those "blank spots" are Fridays where I went out, was hungover Saturday, and Sunday was "catch up on reviews" day.  haha...  I generally shot for 35 a day and really kicked it up a notch at the end.

A note on my reviews:  I used a random interval between 6-12 hours for my initial intervals to randomize the order they'd be displayed back to me while still keeping them in basic groups for the first few days of review.  So lets say, at an average of 9hrs, my reviews go:  9hr, 18hr, 36hr, 3 days, 6 days, 12 days, 24 days, 42 days).   Or thereabouts. 

Also, I ALWAYS finished my pending reviews before adding new cards.

If you're familiar with Anki, I reviewed like this:
1 (Again) - Had an error in the writing, could not remember the card, or somehow wrote it but really felt I just got lucky by guessing primitives.
2 (Hard) - The first time I wrote the Kanji, there was an error but I rewrote it correctly without having to see the answer.  I also sometimes hit 2 if I really had to "dig deep" to remember the story.
3 (Good) - Everything was written perfectly and the story easily came to mind or was completely unnecessary (very simple or pictographic Kanji)

I never used the 4 (Easy)...  I think this reviewing style resulted in the decent but somewhat mediocre 85% on my reviews, though I think was generally rather harsh, erring on the side of "Is it a 2 or a 1?  Better just hit 1". 

There aren't a lot of mature cards as the cards I first reviewed hadn't quite had time to hit the mature stage.  I was only just starting to see the first few batches of "mature" cards when I took that screenshot. 

Oh yeah, please ignore the bad "Correct today" rate in that screenshot.  heh..  I was really, really sick and had a ton of reviews so I just sucked it up and pushed through it, despite my brain refusing to work.  The backlog was sorta created by the really fast pace I was adding cards during the last week or so - man, that created a huge review problem the next week.  heh...    Okay, I'll stop apologizing for my so-so rates now smile


Since this time, I've actually added about another 500 or so Kanji and changed my reviewing around a lot.  Also, I've starting working on a new way of reviewing them (while keeping up with my old, keyword-based reviews).  I changed my reviewing system to help with learning onyomi readings kinda passively in the context of kanji compounds I generally already know the words for, though maybe not the kanji used to write them.  That maybe sounds confusing, so here's an example:

The card shows me this:
__堂 (しょくどう)

I then have to write the kanji 食   (and often, for good measure, I just write the full compound for practice and "associating" those two together as one writing process)

The answer shows me this (along with other information including stroke order, both readings in full, and other compounds it's in)
食堂 (しょくどう)

Obviously, there are many Kanji that are pretty obscure or not used so often.  So I wind up learning some strange words with them. smile  I'm liking how this system is making the Kanji more conceptual in my mind than just Keywords. 

This takes a bit of work, as I have to find an appropriate compound for each kanji that corresponds to that kanji's keyword - not always an easy task, so I sometimes change keywords to more appropriately represent the kanji in my mind.  This usually requires a story rewrite.

zodiac Member
Registered: 2008-04-01 Posts: 123

How do you display those review statistics? Meaning the "Correct today: 76.1%" etc. I can get the graph but not those.

Ben_Nielson Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-12-19 Posts: 164

Hover your mouse over the green bars on the bottom right hand corner of the Anki window.  The stats should pop up. smile

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zodiac Member
Registered: 2008-04-01 Posts: 123

Ooh, thanks

bandwidthjunkie Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-23 Posts: 90

-> Ben; My review style is almost identical to yours on Anki (well your original style). I hit 1 if I make any mistake, 2 if I have to think about it, 3 for most correct answers and 4 for kanji like 金 which appear everywhere and are of no value in reviewing (except to make you feel better during a long run of blanks).

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