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Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

i was just wondering if any of you guys have used anki with any other languages besides Japanese... i was thinking of starting a deck of Spanish cards for my Spanish class... what do you guys think about it?

phoenix Member
Registered: 2006-10-08 Posts: 32

Do it! Works great, I'm using it for Sanskrit at the moment. I'm having some problems with displaying the correct fonts, but that shouldn't be a problem for Spanish.

Once I 'finish' with Japanese, I'm continuing to use it for Arabic.

playadom Member
Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 468

Hashiriya wrote:

i was just wondering if any of you guys have used anki with any other languages besides Japanese... i was thinking of starting a deck of Spanish cards for my Spanish class... what do you guys think about it?

I'm doing anki with spanish right now. Works amazingly. I highly recommend it.

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Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

sweet... i wish they had a Spanish program on iKnow sad but oh well, Anki is the next best thing smile

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

do any of you guys happen to have any Spanish anki decks you can give me? i'ld appreciate it!! my e-mail is insomniacgamer@hotmail.com

playadom Member
Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 468

Hashiriya wrote:

do any of you guys happen to have any Spanish anki decks you can give me? i'ld appreciate it!! my e-mail is insomniacgamer@hotmail.com

[firstly, it's probably not a good idea to give out your email like this on a public forum]

Anyways, I find that it's much better to make your own deck than use someone else's. Different people learn differently, and different people know different things. If I gave you my anki deck, it would be like putting in a pair of $1000 in-ear earphones that are custom fitted to my ear canal -- it wouldn't fit you very well.

There are probably a lot of differing opinions on what to do with your deck.

You mentioned that you were in a Spanish class. You could probably add your vocab lists into anki. Perhaps some useful phrases too. Also thethe example sentences and maybe interesting sentences from the dialogues. And of course, if anywhere you see something interesting in Spanish, add it to your deck! One advantage of this is that you won't have to review for the final exam -- anki will keep it all in your head!

alyks Member
From: Arizona Registered: 2008-05-31 Posts: 914 Website

Anki is a flashcard program. You put in what you don't want to forget. That's all. It's not like flashcards is a Japanese specific thing.

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

eh... i'm putting in my vocabulary lists right now... it's really tedious though... i wish i would have done this from the beginning of the semester >_<

Erubey Member
From: Escondido California Registered: 2008-01-14 Posts: 162

I use flash card SRS with all my classes now. Sometimes I don't even review, just putting it in is enough for me to remember for a quiz/test.

The only difference with japanese is that if its a language like spanish you can read everything straight out when you first see the card. Unlike kanji->Kana or whatever method you use. To counteract that I put blank spaces instead sometimes in my french cards.

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

i put my first lesson's vocab and examples sentences in... seems to work really good ^_^ i think i'll have no problem on my oral exam now at the end of the semester now ^_^

nac_est Member
From: Italy Registered: 2006-12-12 Posts: 617 Website

How do you set up the cards? My girlfriend wants to improve her English and I'm making her use Anki, but to me, without kanji/kana and compounds, it seems too easy to just look at the sentence. Do you guys write the foreign sentences down? I'm interested in suggestions.

playadom Member
Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 468

Erubey wrote:

I use flash card SRS with all my classes now. Sometimes I don't even review, just putting it in is enough for me to remember for a quiz/test.

Yeah, I do that too. It's extremely effective!

playadom Member
Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 468

nac_est wrote:

How do you set up the cards? My girlfriend wants to improve her English and I'm making her use Anki, but to me, without kanji/kana and compounds, it seems too easy to just look at the sentence. Do you guys write the foreign sentences down? I'm interested in suggestions.

I do production cards for important grammar points -- like -- i put in 'exercise sentences' into anki, and then do those whenever they come up. I do both production and recognition for vocabulary. I do production cards where the translation is extremely straightforward. Mostly when I'm adding a bunch of sentences on a new grammar point -- they all fit rather simple patterns, and I'm basically just adding a new vocab word to a card with a fresh grammar point here.  I also have a bunch of recognition cards. I do this with random useful sentences that I see in books, the dictionary, and pretty much everywhere.

I also thought it was 'too easy' to just look at the sentence. Surprisingly, recognition cards are quite effective. Try to to a small 'analysis' of the sentence: don't just grasp the meaning. Try thinking things like "ahh he uses this grammar here...oh i see how the sentence links together...ohhh so it's HER that's doing XXX to YYY with a ZZZ...aha, i know these vocabulary words....interesting, i didn't know you could say xxx [grammar] zzz...etc."

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

i just put in the vocab. list and all the example sentences showing the grammar in the lesson. some of the words, when i reviewed, i had to fail a few times and if i wasn't totally sure about a word i marked it as difficult... i'm not concerned about becoming fluent in spanish though, just passing the class, that's all...

playadom Member
Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 468

Hashiriya wrote:

i'm not concerned about becoming fluent in spanish though, just passing the class, that's all...

Why not??? If you're getting started, you might as well continue it...

albion Member
From: England Registered: 2008-05-25 Posts: 383 Website

It's not for Anki (but you can probably import it anyway), but on Mnemosyne's website there a desk for Spanish with some 2000-odd cards. Making your own is obviously better, but it's nice to have something to start with (and you can always delete anything you don't need/like).

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

I'm just more focused on my Japanese studies as I am moving there for good after I complete my Bachelors Degree in Japanese Language & Literature... to make a long story short, the only reason i am taking Spanish right now is because at my local college Japanese is not offered and i need up to 4 semesters in a foreign language for my associate's degree in modern foreign languages... then i am going to transfer once i obtain that... Georgia is a horrible place to find classes that teach Japanese... the only 2 colleges i know of that teach it are UGA and Georgia Tech... i am planning on transferring to UGA in about another year... right now i'm just learning a bunch of worthless subjects that have nothing to do with what i want to do in my life....

playadom Member
Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 468

Hashiriya wrote:

I'm just more focused on my Japanese studies as I am moving there for good after I complete my Bachelors Degree in Japanese Language & Literature... to make a long story short, the only reason i am taking Spanish right now is because at my local college Japanese is not offered and i need up to 4 semesters in a foreign language for my associate's degree in modern foreign languages... then i am going to transfer once i obtain that... Georgia is a horrible place to find classes that teach Japanese... the only 2 colleges i know of that teach it are UGA and Georgia Tech... i am planning on transferring to UGA in about another year... right now i'm just learning a bunch of worthless subjects that have nothing to do with what i want to do in my life....

Well... if you live in America, Spanish is hardly worthless!

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

but as i said... once i obtain my bachelors degree in japanese language and literature, i'll be moving to japan for good... i don't consider spanish really worthless... i just feel like more or less i will have no use for it... what i do consider worthless are these history, math and political science classes...

strugglebunny Member
From: Okachimachi Registered: 2007-11-10 Posts: 139 Website

Hashiriya wrote:

but as i said... once i obtain my bachelors degree in japanese language and literature, i'll be moving to japan for good... i don't consider spanish really worthless... i just feel like more or less i will have no use for it... what i do consider worthless are these history, math and political science classes...

Those subjects aren't worthless. University is a place to learn to become a better person. If you just want classes that will be directly applied to some profession, go to a trade/business/language school (depending on whatever you think you'll be doing in the future.)

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

well, i don't see how all this is making me a "better person", but if you say so, i already have a technical degree in nursing (LPN) and i don't feel like i became a "better person" because of that (unless of course you mean becoming better as in being able to afford the bills) ... and the reason i am going for my bachelor's degree at a university is because that is pretty much the standard requirement for an american to get a decent job in japan...and because i'ld like to get good enough to become a translator one day...

Last edited by Hashiriya (2008 November 05, 2:09 pm)

CaLeDee Member
Registered: 2008-08-31 Posts: 170

strugglebunny wrote:

University is a place to learn to become a better person.

Learn to become a better person? What exactly does University have that facilitates the becoming of a better person that other places, such as working, traveling, self-studying etc etc don't have? If having to study things you have no interest in is some secret method to becoming a better person, then I think I missed that memo.

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

i'm glad somebody agrees with me ^_^
you know this is my opinion but i think these "core classes" should be done away with in college... sure having them optional would be nice if you are really interested in those kinds of things, but i feel that people would be much more prepared for their future and their jobs if they concentrated on the main reason why they went to college in the first place... i think someone needs to reevaluate what people are actually getting out of these classes...

Last edited by Hashiriya (2008 November 05, 2:45 pm)

kazelee Rater Mode
From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

Math is not worthless. History and political science give people something to talk about so I guess they do have some form or value.

University, Army, clubs, etc don't make people into better persons, though. I person decides to become "better" through his/her own volition.

Last edited by kazelee (2008 November 05, 2:45 pm)

Hashiriya Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2008-04-14 Posts: 1072

math isn't worthless if it applies to your field of study... i haven't exactly had to do any huge algebra problems since i have been out of highschool... sure i use a little math in nursing... but not trig or anything like that