Read The Kanji web application

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iSoron Member
From: Canada Registered: 2008-03-24 Posts: 490

Tobberoth wrote:

Wow, I had no idea 外 could be used for ほか, during my year in Japan I only ever saw 他 used.

Japanese rocks. 外、外に、外す、外人, 外題.

By the way, nice app. I'm not using it myself, as that's exactly what my Anki reviews look like, but I certainly would if Anki were not around.

alantin Member
From: Finland Registered: 2007-05-02 Posts: 346

playadom wrote:

There is a little star directly to the left of where it says:

Issue 18:       Type in text boxes for the answer

Ok!
Good!
Thanks! ^^/

zodiac Member
Registered: 2008-04-01 Posts: 123

kfmfe04 wrote:

BTW, if you study Hanzi, 他 is actually used for "he" while 外 really means "other or outside", so I was actually shocked the other way when I saw 他 used for "other" in Japanese!

Off topic, but did you come across 其他 before?

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kfmfe04 Member
From: 台北 Registered: 2007-10-21 Posts: 487

zodiac wrote:

kfmfe04 wrote:

BTW, if you study Hanzi, 他 is actually used for "he" while 外 really means "other or outside", so I was actually shocked the other way when I saw 他 used for "other" in Japanese!

Off topic, but did you come across 其他 before?

No I haven't... ...thank you for that tip - I just looked it up:

其他      qi ta - other, else

Obviously, my Mandarin is way, way basic!

yukamina Member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-01-09 Posts: 761

There's some inconsistency with prefixes and suffixes. So far it only excepts うわ~ for 上~ yet がい for ~がい. So I don't know when to include ~ or not.

But I like this ap smile I get to practice readings and vocab, but by actively typing in answers, unlike most other flash card systems.

playadom Member
Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 468

kfmfe04 wrote:

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I don't know about this history of Kanji use so I can't say for sure, but I would bet that many of these words existed in the verbal-sense, before Kanji was used.  I would conjecture that as Kanji were introduced, one reading would be assigned to different Kanji to distinguish different uses of that word like きる.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

That's why we have strange things like 見る and 観る
or 聞く and 聴く
or worse yet, 量る、計る,測る and so on

mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

暑い、 熱い
But hey. It is not really worse. It's pretty neat after you have it figured out.

mantixen Member
From: Illinois Registered: 2006-11-10 Posts: 35 Website

Another thing I don't quite understand about the application is that it says "Each color corresponds to a different success rate: [green]  80% ~ 100%..." Yet when I see a word/kanji for the first time and get it correct, it's red on the stats page, and only turns green after I've gotten it right numerous times. To me, 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3, etc. all turn out to be 100% success rate, and red/orange/yellow kanji should only show up if I've gotten something wrong.

Oh, and while I'm posting, a few more errors I've noticed:

吐く (はく) includes the english definition "to tell lies", but the word used in that way is read つく, which isn't listed as a correct answer, causing me to "miss" the card. Please just delete the part of the english definition that says "(2) to tell lies"

知能(ちのう) is defined as "brain", when it means "brains", as in intelligence.

That is all for now.

joeellis New member
From: nagoya Registered: 2008-07-30 Posts: 9

mantixen wrote:

Another thing I don't quite understand about the application is that it says "Each color corresponds to a different success rate: [green]  80% ~ 100%..." Yet when I see a word/kanji for the first time and get it correct, it's red on the stats page, and only turns green after I've gotten it right numerous times. To me, 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3, etc. all turn out to be 100% success rate, and red/orange/yellow kanji should only show up if I've gotten something wrong.

I should reword how I wrote it, but the idea is that you improve your rating over time of getting it correct.  It's not an average, more like a "strength rating."  So you start out in red and the more often you get that kanji correct in a rating, the more it moves towards becoming green (on average about 10 times correct will make it the most green).  Now that I think about it, blue would be a much better color to start with, as red signifies some sort of error which really isn't the case.

mantixen wrote:

Oh, and while I'm posting, a few more errors I've noticed:

吐く (はく) includes the english definition "to tell lies", but the word used in that way is read つく, which isn't listed as a correct answer, causing me to "miss" the card. Please just delete the part of the english definition that says "(2) to tell lies"

知能(ちのう) is defined as "brain", when it means "brains", as in intelligence.

That is all for now.

Thanks for these, they should be corrected now smile

ivoSF Member
From: The Netherlands Registered: 2005-11-29 Posts: 144

great site, here are mine thoughts after 30 minutes of use.

it would be great if you can disable certain cards you do not want to learn.
it seems kana mixed with romanji does not work, for example when i type kana and forget to press "N" twice at the end of a word it keeps shown as a "N" it would be great if such words are not failed.

wccrawford Member
From: FL US Registered: 2008-03-28 Posts: 1551

ivoSF wrote:

great site, here are mine thoughts after 30 minutes of use.

it would be great if you can disable certain cards you do not want to learn.
it seems kana mixed with romanji does not work, for example when i type kana and forget to press "N" twice at the end of a word it keeps shown as a "N" it would be great if such words are not failed.

Ideally, your IME should be taking care of that and is not.  (Mine did it to me, too.)  Also, you should get in the habit of hitting the double N for ん because some words like みんな require it.

playadom Member
Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 468

wccrawford wrote:

ivoSF wrote:

great site, here are mine thoughts after 30 minutes of use.

it would be great if you can disable certain cards you do not want to learn.
it seems kana mixed with romanji does not work, for example when i type kana and forget to press "N" twice at the end of a word it keeps shown as a "N" it would be great if such words are not failed.

Ideally, your IME should be taking care of that and is not.  (Mine did it to me, too.)  Also, you should get in the habit of hitting the double N for ん because some words like みんな require it.

An apostrophe [n'] also works.

subhuman New member
From: Ceres Crossroads Registered: 2007-12-09 Posts: 2

Hey, I don't post much and this thread is pretty dead (if there is another one I haven't noticed sorry), but I just saw that the site updated to 0.5 and now has example phrases with a feedback system looks nice

kfmfe04 Member
From: 台北 Registered: 2007-10-21 Posts: 487

You're right - the sample phrases is an excellent improvement for resolving ambiguities in readings.  The feedback system also looks snazzy.

phauna Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-12-25 Posts: 500 Website

With the sample phrases, I've been going through and seeing what vocabulary I might not have from levels 3 and 4, and then using the example sentence to put in my srs.