liveone
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From: japan
Registered: 2008-10-26
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There is a constant stress on writing the kanji to reinforce the learning process, but who actually bothers to write nowadays? The reality is everyone uses a computer; types using a romaji keyboard in hiragana and looks up the kanji if the computer's first choice is wrong. Does Heisig's method, particularly with RTKII need any modification?
Tobberoth
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From: Sweden
Registered: 2008-08-25
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liveone wrote:
There is a constant stress on writing the kanji to reinforce the learning process, but who actually bothers to write nowadays? The reality is everyone uses a computer; types using a romaji keyboard in hiragana and looks up the kanji if the computer's first choice is wrong. Does Heisig's method, particularly with RTKII need any modification?
And most people who write ANYTHING.... essays, reports, forum posts, articles etc use spellcheckers. Should we stop teaching people how to spell in school?
Personally, I see Heisigs absolute strongest point as the ability you get in writing kanji... It's amazing, I already write kanji better and faster than most adult Japanese. While I COULD use a computer (or Japanese cellphone) to check how a kanji is written, it makes perfect sense to be able to write them by hand. Before I started with Heisig it happened me several times that I had to write kanji without any form of electronic help and I often failed.
Nukemarine
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From: 神奈川
Registered: 2007-07-15
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In the process of learning the kanji via the component method, you know how to write it. Now, you don't "have" to write down the kanji during the review. Heck, you don't even have to pretend to write it down (finger on palm for example).
Now, if you never go to Japan, you'll probably never "need" to write kanji. Since I'm in Japan, I find the ability to write Kanji useful in some cases. Should I work at a Japanese company, the ability to write would become mandatory.
YMMV depending on your situation.
vosmiura
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From: SF Bay Area
Registered: 2006-08-24
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I did RTK even though I don't see myself needing to write a lot of kanji. I don't get to write much English by hand either these days... mainly I write in word processors, presentation slides, email, etc.
Anyhow, RTK is still very useful because it really helped to get the kanji clearly in my head & make a lot fewer reading mistakes.
Even before using RTK, I used to write the kanji out a lot to help memorise them. I wrote them over & over by hand many times. With RTK, I didn't have to write them out many times because I learned them much faster than writing them out over & over.
So, RTK = learn kanji writing with LESS hand writing.
Raichu
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From: Australia
Registered: 2005-10-27
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How do people manage to avoid writing? Just in the last couple of days, I wrote:
- a shopping list
- a note to my son
- phone numbers my wife gave me over the phone
- some diagrams and notes to help me understand a document I was reading at work
- some Japanese notes to help me understand the manga I'm reading
Some days I wrote a lot more. I can see some people might not have that much to write, but wouldn't that be the exception rather than the rule?
As far as learning kanji, though, even if you learn to just recognize them, writing reinforces what you are learning. Why do you think you are asked to write notes in school rather than just being given handouts to read? The act of writing helps you learn and memorize.
Furthermore to get kanji looking good you need lots and lots of practice. I've been practicing Japanese writing for years and I still can't even get some hiragana looking right. Now if your goal is simply to communicate, then even badly written Japanese does the job, but if you want to have some pride in yourself and not have your writing look like that of a child, then you need to practice writing at every opportunity.
Last edited by Raichu (2008 November 03, 1:39 pm)
CaLeDee
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Registered: 2008-08-31
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Since I have become accustomed to using Anki recently for studying, I have been writing a lot less. I still do my daily reviews on this site and write out the kanji, but other than that I haven't been writing so much.. I'm doing RTK2 now, mostly with Anki and I think I might start writing out the kanji to help me remember their readings better.
I was talking to a Japanese girl a while ago and she said because people have become so accustomed to using their cellphones and emailing so much, more and more are starting to forget how to write some of the kanji. However, I think writing will never become something that can just be set aside and never learned, especially if you are wanting a decent job. When I'm in the mood for it I love to take my time writing kanji as best I can but other times I can't be bothered and just scribble it.