Restarting RtK

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AdamLeliel Member
From: Nottingham Registered: 2008-06-30 Posts: 91

Has anyone else done this? I'm really considering deleting my anki deck and starting all over again. I've barely done anything for a month, I can barely remember anything, my anki deck's a little messed up-- I think it might be time to start over.

Did this help anyone else?

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From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

You wouldn't actually be restarting RTK.

I have thought of doing this a few times myself, though, more for experiments sake.

How far along are you?

Perhaps seeing all the kanji in order might help you remember things better. I'd wait for some more input before going through with it though.

AdamLeliel Member
From: Nottingham Registered: 2008-06-30 Posts: 91

I'm at about the 1000 mark. So, halfway.

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lerris Member
From: Orlando Registered: 2006-06-17 Posts: 44 Website

I sort of did the same thing at around the same place. Two months of missed reviews resulted in basically every card being orange (I use the site to review). Instead though, I just picked up where I left off -- hit the 'review all' button and went at it.

If I was sure of a kanji I'd write it down then look at the answer, pass it if I was right. If I wasn't sure on one, I'd flat out not even look at the card -- just look away and fail it. That way I wouldn't accidentally see a kanji within a larger one that I wouldn't have remembered normally, in case that one came up for review.

I reasoned that if I started over, I'd end up with a horrible review schedule for a while since I'd basically be forcing the first several hundred right on through, knowing them by heart. Instead, I decided that if (2 months later) I could still pass the character from whatever stack it was already in.. I must have learned it and didn't need to review it again.

In the end I had about 300 failed cards (~70% retention, yay!), so I went through them next and started knocking them out. After that stack was trimmed down to basically nothing, I resumed adding cards where I left off.

alantin Member
From: Finland Registered: 2007-05-02 Posts: 346

I started again a couple of times and I find that with most characters I just didn't remember the keyword and just associating the keywords back to the kanji I already actually remembered, wasn't too hard or time consuming.

First you need to separate the ones you remember from the ones that need work!

AdamLeliel wrote:

I'm at about the 1000 mark. So, halfway.

Add the first 1000 characters to the site SRS and review them. That way you'll have the ones that need work in the failed stack, you can just consentrate on those, and you don't have to start from scratch again.

In the meantime you can just start using the RTK deck that comes with anki and suspend the characters you don't know yet.

Codexus Member
From: Switzerland Registered: 2007-11-27 Posts: 721

I'm also kind of "restarting". I finished my first pass at RtK 1 last March but then I didn't have the motivation to really keep reviewing.

I haven't reset everything though, I kept the non-expired kanji but for the rest, I tried to start reviewing them but it just didn't make any sense. It's way faster to just mark them all as failed and restart the reviews in book order.

The trick now will be to stay motivated and just study every day like the first time, only now it's much easier since it's mostly about refreshing my memory. Also this time, I don't feel pressure about finishing the book quickly since I've already finished it.

hknamida Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2007-08-16 Posts: 222 Website

I kind of "restarted" when I switched to Anki, but then I just blazed through the ones I already remembered perfectly (about 90% of RtK1 and some of RtK3). My review load was insane for the first couple of weeks after that, though. While I had already finished both books, I wouldn't be surprised if you were to get similar results. Even if you start over, I'm sure you'll remember more than you think.

Whether it's really the best choice, though, I don't know. You may be better off just reviewing and failing the cards you don't remember. That way you won't have to review 一二三四五六七八九十口日月田 more than once a week. >_o

Last edited by hknamida (2008 October 11, 9:42 am)

AdamLeliel Member
From: Nottingham Registered: 2008-06-30 Posts: 91

I've decided to restart. It feels a lot more refreshing and I'm shocked at how many I really just don't remember from the start. I'm going at 50 a day, which isn't too hard as I do know a lot of them. I didn't actually own the book before (gasp) but it's coming on Tuesday. I think that might help... a lot.

phauna Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-12-25 Posts: 500 Website

When I'd finished rtk, I went straight, hardcore, to sentences, dropping all my kanji reviews.  Lately I've been using JRTK to start again.

Reply #10 - 2008 October 12, 3:47 pm
suffah Member
From: New York Registered: 2006-09-14 Posts: 261

The first time I did it, I restarted in the 700's.

Second time I pushed through, but stopped reviewing Heisig and focused on sentences (big mistake).

I'm just about done with my third time (using Japanese keywords and sentences).

Was this the best way to go about it?  Probably not, but I'm grateful I stuck with it.  There will not be a fourth time, lol

Reply #11 - 2008 October 12, 5:33 pm
Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

It's fortunate I kept the mindset that I will continue to review every day even if I'm done (26,000 reviews). Now, I'm oh so slowly adding in RTK3 kanji.

Even now though, I am finding mistakes in my stroke order (thanks to the links to SOD). Granted, with Heisig, fixing the primitive stroke order fixes all the assciated kanji.

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