If you google for "話すからよくお聞き" then several of the hits seem to be for versions of the script which use that kanji.

Where is your script from? Is it an official one or something done by some random person?

pm215 wrote:

If you google for "話すからよくお聞き" then several of the hits seem to be for versions of the script which use that kanji.

Where is your script from? Is it an official one or something done by some random person?

Hmm you're right. Here's the site I'm getting it from: http://mnr.jp/ghibli/senword/s1.html

When I searched the 離す version it actually gave me a few non-Japanese site (Chinese, Korean etc.) that seem to be using the script as a means to study... that's not a great sign. I think I better use 話す.

Last edited by Virtua_Leaf (2008 September 20, 2:17 pm)

If you want a known-good version of the script you can buy the "film comic" (uses stills from the film and the whole of the dialogue: http://www.bk1.jp/product/02064243  (that's book 1 of 5).

This kind of "henkan miss" does seem to crop up from time to time, presumably because the author wasn't paying enough attention when they were typing. Obviously professionally edited stuff shouldn't have that kind of mistake, but I've seen it from time to time in the Tanaka corpus example sentences, for instance.

NB: google counts give 誤魔化す as significantly more popular than 誤摩化す, with ごまかす more popular than either.

mentat_kgs wrote:

It is not odd that 話す fits perfectly in the sentence.

これからどうするか話すからよくお聞き。

Before we talk about what to do from now on, listen well.

"I will talk about what will do from now on, so listen well." would probably be a more proper translation, just because there's not really any "before" in the sentence. Nitpicking though, the semantics is basically the same.

Although professional scripts are superior in quality, you have to type them up.  They're good for checking, but I don't want to type stuff up so I'm willing to trust an amateurs efforts in exchange for never having to type it up.

I intend to volunteer for manga translation when I get good enough. I guess there is no one translation from japanese currently. Every one of them translate from english.

Virtua_Leaf wrote:

Yeah I'd like to do something in translation in the future.

Oh can I ask about another sentence? I was looking up the word だらけ in Yahoo JP, and it gave me this explanation:

# だらけ

［接尾］名詞に付く。１ それのために汚れたり、それが一面に広がったりしているさまを表す。

And I don't really understand it. "For the sake of that, represent doing things like dirty it, widen it etc.."

Then I check the ENG def and it's:

implying (negatively) that something is full of (e.g. mistakes); covered all over (e.g. with blood)

The original sentence I took it from is, yet again, the Spirited Away script:

そこら中ススだらけだからな。

それのために汚れたり、それが一面に広がったりしているさまを表す。

"To express a state of something making it dirty, something spreading over a whole surface."

Would be a decent translation in this case. それ is referring to the 名詞 you attached darake to.

Example sentences:
この部屋はゴミだらけだね。 - "This room is filled with trash, huh."
知らないことだらけだ。 - "There's so much we don't know."

BTW I made those sentences. I promise they are as good as native sentences, but those who are pure in their studies shouldn't use them

No, だらけ means something is 'full of' or 'riddled with' something, but frequently negatively.  eg dirt, garbage, dust, and metaphorically mistakes, etc. There's stuff on it http://www.guidetojapanese.org/covered.html

ばかり is only/nothing but, which doesn't really have the same implications or use within a sentence.

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Virtua_Leaf wrote:

Ａｈａ　ｔhank　ｙｏｕ．　Ｉ　ｔｈｏｕｇｈｔ　Ｉ　ｒｅａｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｗｈｏｌｅ　ｏｆ　Ｔａｅ　Ｋｉｍ　ｂｕｔ　ｉｔ　ｓｅｅｍｓ I missed some stuff.

やなこった！あたいが殺されちまうよ！

Anyone know what やなこった means?

Edit - Seems to me like it means something along the lines of "no way!". Perhaps it's a colloquial いやなこと or something?

Either way, what's best to do in a situation like this when you've taken a sentence from the 'wild' (thus no explanation) and no dictionary will accept it either?

You can ask native japanese people, unfortunately, it happens that they have no idea either because it's simply slang or a mistake. It could be a dialect issue. I would stay clear of the sentence, but you could of course look for more sentences using it and try to understand it by cross referencing.

Yeah, don't go after sentences. They'll come after you.

I figure, if you've found a sentence without translation that you can't understand, don't use it. I've found that after watching a lot of anime, I can understand slangy colloquial stuff like やなこった. As long as you keep getting input, you'll start to understand even the things you didn't study directly.

nest0r wrote:

Feeling like a n00b. Someone explain this to me: ここから東に行くと東京、 -- What does the と do here? Is it a quoting function? KO gives the translation as "From this point, go east to Tokyo," ..

I think it's being used here as a conditional particle.

If you go to the east from here, you'll be in Tokyo.

Edit - Damn you Tobberoth. :-p

Tae Kim has good conditional explanations: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/conditional.html

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