I give up. How do I type づ

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Virtua_Leaf Member
From: UK Registered: 2007-09-07 Posts: 340

I've tried dsu, tzu, zu, I can never get it. Well I got it once when fiddling around with the keyboard but I can't remember how I did it.

Also the same goes to the character ち with the tenten on it.

Thanks.

nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

du and di?

mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

づ and ぢ

I too puzzled myself for a few minutes when I needed them too when writing 気付かない.
I was trying to change きずかない to 気付かない, but I could not make it work by any means.

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thermal Member
From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: 2007-11-30 Posts: 399

Ok my turn, how do I type テ and little イ, as in パーティー?

hknamida Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2007-08-16 Posts: 222 Website

thermal wrote:

Ok my turn, how do I type テ and little イ, as in パーティー?

"texi"

Edit: This also applies to other small kana:
ぁぃぅぇぉっゃゅょァィゥェォッャュョ

Edit 2: Apparently "thi" works, too.

Last edited by hknamida (2008 September 20, 1:15 pm)

Virtua_Leaf Member
From: UK Registered: 2007-09-07 Posts: 340

You have no idea how much this helps.

づ ぢ

And just to verify, they're just uncommon ways of writing 'zu' and 'ji'?

Edit - And good call on ティ as well. Finally I can write セルティック without looking Celtic up in Wikipedia and changing the language to Japanese.

Last edited by Virtua_Leaf (2008 September 20, 1:21 pm)

hknamida Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2007-08-16 Posts: 222 Website

Virtua_Leaf wrote:

You have no idea how much this helps.

づ ぢ

And just to verify, they're just uncommon ways of writing 'zu' and 'ji'?

While not as common as ず and じ, they're not all that rare. They're mainly used in compounds where つ or ち undergo phonetic changes (see mentat_kgs's post), and when a [zu] or [ji] sound comes directly after a つ or a ち, respectively. An example of the latter would be つづく.

Last edited by hknamida (2008 September 20, 1:24 pm)

Virtua_Leaf Member
From: UK Registered: 2007-09-07 Posts: 340

Ahh that ties in with a lot. Thanks hknamida.

mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

Yeah, it is quite common, as 付く is veeery common.

Thora Member
From: Canada Registered: 2007-02-23 Posts: 1691

In case this might be of some use:

There's a list of the various acceptable IME roma-kana conversion in the IME Properties -Template-Advanced. (You can apparently also assign different kana to a particular roma input.) [Edit: There's also a conversion chart at IME Tools -Help-Contents -Kana Conversion Table (but gya and gyi wrong??)]

Also, in Properties-Autocorrect, you can select an automatic correction of じ/ず ←→ ぢ/づ
[Edit: this might be a bad idea if it means you have to scroll through the options.]

Google "wapuro romaji" for a general discussion of wapuro romaji (can vary between IME software) and comparison with other romanization conventions.

And finally, there are other threads somewhere in this forum offering suggestions for many fun marks and symbols the IME can create (with links to complete lists online).

Last edited by Thora (2008 September 20, 3:42 pm)

Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

For typing Japanese, I've got into the habit of using the following:

sa si su se so     さしすせそ
za zi zu ze zo     ざじずぜぞ
ta ti tu te to     だぢづでど
da di du de do     だぢづでど
ha hi hu he ho     はひふへほ

Reasons: It's simple and consistent (easy to remember), but mostly because it saves keystrokes.

Wikipedia article on romaji systems

mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

I guess you got the tatituteto wrong.

Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

mentat_kgs wrote:

I guess you got the tatituteto wrong.

Oops, thank you. What I meant was:

sa si su se so     さしすせそ
za zi zu ze zo     ざじずぜぞ
ta ti tu te to     たちつてと
da di du de do     だぢづでど
ha hi hu he ho     はひふへほ

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