I haven't reviewed for over a week...help!

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zardoz73 Member
From: tokyo Registered: 2008-07-28 Posts: 13

So I've been unexpectedly busy for the past two weeks or so, and haven't reviewed any kanji, much less learned new kanji (I'm at #650 or so).  I know I have to just hunker down and get through it, but does anyone have any tips?  Been there before where you kinda sorta have to start over again?  My expired pile is 472 kanji and my failed pile is at least 50 or so, so it's gonna take me a while.  And worse, I'm still really busy and will have maybe an hour tops everyday to work on this.  Any advice is appreciated.

Zarxrax Member
From: North Carolina Registered: 2008-03-24 Posts: 949

I would say just focus on your reviews, and don't worry about your failed pile until you get your reviews caught up. Then just go through your failed pile and add back in the ones you think you know, or if you don't feel like you know it, work on it some.
Your expired pile isn't really that big. When I got to the point of finishing RTK1, I was getting over 200 expired cards per day (cause I had rushed through it in only 3 months).
Even if you are kinda slow, with an hour a day, you should probably be able to clear out those piles in about a week, if you aren't focusing on learning any new ones.

Just make sure you really know the failed cards before you add them back in. Otherwise, you just fail them again, and it keeps your # of expired cards large.

Last edited by Zarxrax (2008 September 08, 9:02 pm)

mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

Export your data to anki using the plugin and let anki manage the reviews for you. And follow Zarxrax advice.

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phauna Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-12-25 Posts: 500 Website

Get to it.  There is no answer, there are no tips or tricks.  Do as much as you can, then do something else for a break, then do as much as you can again.

Squintox Member
From: Toronto, Canada Registered: 2008-07-27 Posts: 292 Website

Do 5 at a time. Get a 1 minute timer (or use an online one), and when the one minute is over, do another 5. If you still feel tired from the last five. Put up another minute. Don't become the SRS's slave as Khatzumoto says.

Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

Just do 1. If you're up to it, keep doing one more. You have to decide: Am I going to stop when a certain amount of time passes, When I'm done, When I have missed X number of kanji, etc.

500 seems like a lot, so don't think of it as 500. Just see it as 1 or 10 or 50 or 100, etc. I fell behind a week, decided to do just 100. Sometimes I did more. The hardest part was convincing myself to START. Once I got started, I kept wanting to do just one more.

Basically, Just Do One. Let the momentum take you from there.

yorkii Member
From: Moriya, Ibaraki Registered: 2005-10-26 Posts: 408 Website

Nukemarine wrote:

Just do 1. If you're up to it, keep doing one more. You have to decide: Am I going to stop when a certain amount of time passes, When I'm done, When I have missed X number of kanji, etc.

500 seems like a lot, so don't think of it as 500. Just see it as 1 or 10 or 50 or 100, etc. I fell behind a week, decided to do just 100. Sometimes I did more. The hardest part was convincing myself to START. Once I got started, I kept wanting to do just one more.

Basically, Just Do One. Let the momentum take you from there.

awesome advice.
the first step is always the hardest.... (not quite proverbial enough)
Every journey starts with a step.... (irrelevant)

but Nukemarine is totally right, you can procrastinate forever about actually starting, doing that first card will tell you if you are in the mood or not.

Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

For having missed a whole week, 500 isn't that bad. You can easily do 100 reviews in 10-15 minutes. The solution: Do 100 reviews. Rest/Do the stuff you're busy with. Do another 100. Keep going like that. Do 200 everyday and your expired reviews will be gone in like 3 days. Then you're back to normal.

zardoz73 Member
From: tokyo Registered: 2008-07-28 Posts: 13

Thanks everyone, for the advice.  You've lit a fire, I've started attacking my pile and am down 100 already!

thermal Member
From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: 2007-11-30 Posts: 399

Use Anki, frankly it is better than this site.

One trick I use when I am really not in the mood, is I use an egg timer and set it for 20, 25 or 30 minutes. I have made an agreement with myself that once I hit go I will not stop studying until I stop. Once you have done 20 or so minutes, do something else. Anything? Well if you are like me, if you just watch TV you will get really tired. So I clean or do something active for 20 minutes, this allows my mind and body time to breath, then I study again for another 20 or so minutes.  Rinse, repeat.

Another great one, is watch some sport and study. I get an obscene amount of study done watching baseball or soccer. For baseball just study between the balls. For soccer, just watch when the commentators start raising their voices. This way you get to enjoy sport and get a lot of study done.

Lastly, it is very important that you don't look at how many you have remaining to review. If you look at this every 5 minutes time will drag and drag. For Anki I usually hide the bottom of the window so I can't track the remaining cards until I am done.

thermal Member
From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: 2007-11-30 Posts: 399

Oh and one more. Study in the morning before you do anything else (aside from a shower or breakfeast or whatnot). This is when your mind is most active and you will be able to tear through it before getting bored.

mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

Yeah, morning power. I feel that too!

plumage Member
From: NYC Registered: 2008-05-27 Posts: 194

I missed almost 3 weeks (not back-to-back, a week at a time) this summer. I came back each time with huge review stacks. I just beat them down, maybe 60-70 a day, until they were at zero. Then I started adding a few new kanji a day, doing normal daily reviews, and knocking down the study pile maybe 10 a day. Then it was time for the next trip.

I didn't add many new kanji during that month-and-a-half, but I kept my sanity, kept my knowledge, and got through it.

Luocorn New member
From: Houston Registered: 2008-07-01 Posts: 9

I'm about to be in the same boat you are in. I live just south of Houston so we are going to be hit by hurricane Ike pretty badly. Hopefully my house and everything in it survives, but if not I will be even father behind in my studies. Good luck on catching up though.

-Luo out to fly a kite

snispilbor Member
From: Ohio USA Registered: 2008-03-23 Posts: 150 Website

I missed a month when I went to Japan.  Came back with over 4000 scheduled reviews (bear in mind, I'm doing sentences concurrently with kanji).  I thought to myself, hmm, I could spend the next week feverishly trying to get through these.  That wouldn't be much fun.  So instead I decided to do 100 cards a day.  Yes, just 100.  It's gonna take me a while.. right now I'm at 3217 scheduled (It'll be 3117 by the end of the day, then 3164 when 3am rolls around).

But the thing is, for me I realized I was letting the SRS control me instead of the other way around.  Like this, I'll eventually get through the deck, meanwhile I'll study Japanese by watching anime, talking to Japanese friends, and playing Japanese video games.

But then again, I've been at it for a long time and my Japanese is getting pretty good.  I guess it's your call whether to ease through it or blast through it. smile

thegeelonghellswan Member
Registered: 2008-05-15 Posts: 74

Get on that pony and giddy up. I did something similar, just do all your reviews bit by bit, by that time I imagine that your failed pile will grow too. Then try and get them done and you are back to even. I would recommend not setting goals, but just login and do a few till you get sick of it and then do it again when you feel like it.

saizen Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-04-21 Posts: 134

haha i know the pain..i got to 1700 from 1300 in like 2 weeks then stopped for 2 weeks due to a company sponsored japanese lessons course(go figure..japanese stopped my japanese studies lol)and now guess what i have a 350 card failed pile and 300+ review....hey shit happens...just gotta man up and pick yourself up off the floor

liosama Member
From: sydney Registered: 2008-03-02 Posts: 896

Sif worry dude, i havent touched this website 8+ weeks and i aint worrying ^_^
i have like 600 in my review stack. And i won't be reviewing/rtking until holidays come (yes i'm stupid and lazy i cant do 2 things at once, )

I get tiny tiny practice though on a weekly basis,  in Japanese class at uni i see a kanji (not taught) and recognize it, or if i hear a word that i know the meaning to i hassle a chinese student to see if that's the appropriate character.

Mighty_Matt Member
From: Koga Registered: 2006-07-18 Posts: 197 Website

I know the feeling.  Due to a new job, moving house etc, I've fallen out of my Japanese study habit and after about 10 weeks I'm up to 600 kanji and about 500 sentences to review.  It worries me that the numbers are so high, but I'm planning to start working away at them this week.  Like others have mentioned if you just start with a few and keep going till you've had enough, you'll do more than you realise.

ayoung24 New member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-08-12 Posts: 3

About a year ago, I let my reviews slip for a few months.  When I came back, I had about 1200 cards in my expired pile.  There were two steps to getting the situation under control:

1) I pledged to do a specific minimum number of cards a day (100)
2) I didn't reinsert anything out of the failed pile until I was completely done.

I prefer #1 over the "timer" method because there are inevitable distractions in my study... some of them external, some of them I find for myself (oh, i'll just check this email quickly...).  With a pledged minimum, escape is impossible.

#2 was important because it kept my expired pile under control while I worked on it.  I wanted to empty my expired pile as soon as possible, and reinserting failed cards would only make the situation worse.  Eventually, when the expired pile was gone, I felt as though things were "back to normal", and I could approach the failed pile as though it was new unlearned cards i.e. learning only a certain amount per day so that I didn't end up with a monster day.

Transtic Member
Registered: 2007-07-29 Posts: 201

I would advice you to review pile by pile instead of all expired cards at once, starting from the lower stacks.

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