How long to spend on each Kanji?

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Walden Member
From: England Registered: 2008-08-24 Posts: 13

I've started RTK yesterday, and I'm 45. But I'm worried, how long should I spend on each Kanji, how do I imprint the story into my head? When I add them to RevTK I seem to forget ones I've done 10 minuites prior.

Sorry if this isn't the right section, as I'm new.

Thanks in advance.

Shirow66 Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-01-27 Posts: 50

Well the easy answer would be "As long as it takes for the story to stick." This is of course different for everyone. I would recommend writing each kanji a whole bunch (like 20 at least) of times with pen and paper because I've found that that makes the kanji stick better than the stories usually. Try to build a sort of muscle memory of how the kanji is written. If you have problems remembering a story, try making it more personal or detailed, or dirty, or anything that would make it stick better. I often find myself going back and changing stories while I review because my mind just comes up with a better solution as I'm reviewing.

annabel398 Member
From: Austin TX Registered: 2008-08-04 Posts: 80

I've got a bit on you age-wise, Walden, so don't let the years be your excuse :-)

I suggest you look back over the kanji you *do* remember (not the easy ones like 一 and 二 but some of the more complicated ones) and ask yourself those particular kanji stick in your head. When I did this, what I found was that I was remembering the ones with really oddball stories like 器 ("utensil," a St. Bernard spread-eagled on a table with four hungry mouths, one at each corner, waiting for the forks and knives so they can dig in) or 則 ("rule," measuring the size of your lobster catch with a saber notched with ruler markings). This told me that I really needed to work harder on vivid images. Ridiculous, incongruous, revolting... the weirder the better.

Also, personify the elements of your story. For 副  "vice-," I picture a wealthy Dick Cheney going on a hunting expedition with a saber instead of a shotgun. And measuring that lobster? I'm a scuba diver, so I imagine descending with that notched saber, scaring off all my dive buddies. Look through other people's stories in the "study" section. Often I'll find a story with a hook that I can then make my own.

I had a mental setback when I realized I was forgetting kanji at about the same rate I was adding them. Going back and really working on vivid images has helped me a lot... I'm running only about 2% to 4% in my "fail" pile now.

Above all, don't get discouraged and give up. You can do it.

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alyks Member
From: Arizona Registered: 2008-05-31 Posts: 914 Website

Walden wrote:

But I'm worried...

Don't be. It will either be fine, or you'll learn what's better. Nobody here can tell you your optimal time spent on kanji. Figure it out. Messing up a little is not going to set you back.

mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

Yeah, you gotta figure out a way to put your mind in motion.
There are various ways.

Read the preface. Read Heisig's introduction.

Read about the journey method.

Keep practicing and you'll learn to do it, and soon you'll do it faster and better.

Zarxrax Member
From: North Carolina Registered: 2008-03-24 Posts: 949

Just don't worry. When your reviews come up a couple of times, see how good your recall rate is. If you are missing a lot of them, then that's the sign you might want to spend more time. Simple smile

AdamLeliel Member
From: Nottingham Registered: 2008-06-30 Posts: 91

Personally, I just make the stories for them, try writing them until it looks "OK" and then I add them (the stories) to anki once I've done 10 to refresh a little bit. Maybe I should be spending a bit more time, but it's been working so far.

Good luck, and I think the advice that's been said is what to follow.

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