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Before I start off I want to say that I looked through 4 pages of search (everything past that was really unrelated) and did not see anything similar. Sorry in advanced if this is a already brought up topic.
Anyways, when I'm getting slowed down in my japanese studies, (bad reviews, trying to learn grammar even though I don't understand the english explanation, etc.) the thing that gets me through it is thinking of the final goal: being able to eventually function in a japanese environment the way a native level speaker could. Then I think of all the things that brought me to japanese: yes manga and anime (cmon who watches these and doesn't want to understand them in their true sense), but also the lifestyle and culture that I have only been able to watch through a screen (vlogs and tv). The anticipation (even though I know that it is just another place with people) makes me feel like i'm on crack. It shoots through me and helps me finish my reviews and studies faster and better.
That brought me back to where I am now, done with my RTK for the day, listening to japanese tv through the buggy application that is KeyHoleTV, and lurking the RvTK forums. So maybe we can all be entertained by each others stories on how and why YOU were inspired to learn japanese. And seriously, even if the only thing you like is manga and anime, I can tell you that there is more than one of you, so just let it out and tell which anime/manga inspired you so much as to take on the task of learning another language haha.
I'm finding myself surrounded more and more by Japanese, and this is the main contributor to reason. Video games (my biggest hobby) have always had obvious roots in Japanese culture, plenty being made in Japan, Nintendo's headquarters being in Japan (I've been a Nintendo follower mostly), anime and video games are becoming closer and closer in ties, the list goes on. So that alone provided a moderate interest. However, it seems Japanese culture is sinking into United States culture like Frodo's foot in the Dead Marshes these days. I used to not be an anime guy... I'm starting to come around, slowly but surely. With a slow exposure to anime also comes an infrequent but mentionable exposure to manga as well as Japanese music. So all these little associations with Japan have started adding up over time.
THEN, my brother decided he was interested in the JET program teaching English in Japan for a year (he's into all the same stuff I am and heading to Japan has become the Holy Grail of traveling abroad). I tried shoving myself in alongside him as a travel buddy who would be in a study abroad program at my school and though not everything has been worked out, I've started studying Japanese in the mean time with high hopes. Even if the trip doesn't go through or simply I'm not able to go, knowing another language - and Japanese in the game industry career - sure wouldn't do any harm!
So I guess it really just went from a small association with the career I'd like to pursue to a general interest in the culture and its products in general. Just through hobbies and small amounts of research the idea of visiting Japan has become more and more appealing. At some point there just won't be a reason anymore, it'll just be the thing to do.
I'd like to hear about others as well because I'd like to know if others' reasons seemed as originally weak to them as mine did to me. I've nothing against a fascination with a culture stemming from a single interest. In fact, that's probably how most became interested (it's not like everyone here has half of their family living in Japan or something).
Amazingly, it started from an interest in the culture and history of the country. I was interested in anime and manga as a kid and that only happened again (but not to a huge extent, I'm not a "hardcore otaku!" or anything of the sort) after I picked up Japanese again. I started getting re-interested in learning the language about a year ago (when I was a kid I studied it briefly, learning basic things like the の particle and XはYです) and learnt the kana but only about 6 months ago did I start studying "properly".
I've started getting interested in programming and video games, too-- Japan being one of the leaders in the gaming industry helps and it'd be nice to understand them, but that's not specifically the reason why I'm studying it, it's just like icing on the cake.
Oh, the language itself I find interesting as well.
Ya haha I forgot about video games also being part of my japanese influence. I guess I kind of asked people to post stories without even posting one of my own. I think the main reason is that I don't exactly know.
Thinking about it now, it was an amazingly gradual process. When I was younger I was never into anything japanese, about the only japanese activity I participated in was super mario world. I played baseball too, but didn't know that countries other than the US played it seriously. I was always the half athletic / half nerd guy throughout middle and high school. I had alot of friends, but could clearly tell that they were into different things. I eventually seperated from the athelete friends (on account of all they would do is smoke/drink and talk about going out to "git sum honayz") and stayed with the gamer/normal people.
Although I did play my fair share of games, I was more into the next american thing (I didn't really think about the japanese games/influences). A friend of mine came over and he brought over final fantasy 7 and grand tourismo. We drank a 24 pack of A&W and played the sh*t out of those games until our eyes bled enough too blur the image to the point where we couldn't correctly play the games. Needless to say I liked the games, but I wasn't going to go out and play every final fantasy game out there.
Then along came anime. The first anime I watched was Cowboy Beebop. I remember coming home from vacation to see adult swim with their hypheness about whatever new program they were slangin'. I didn't know anything about anime, and when i began to watch the first episode, I thought of how it was like cartoons but actually looked artistic, as if it were paintings brought to life. The music hit me too. I think to this day the cowboy beebop soundtracks are my favorite cd's in my library. I played the electric bass guitar in the jazz band at my schools so that was also friggin sweet. I picked up anything I could about the show. I would go through shady sites/napster/kazaa/limewire/suprnova, anywhere where I could get a taste of it. From all the stupid american reality shows that were on and the american cartoons, (don't get me wrong dexter's lab and angry beavers were awesome. not to mention invader zim either) anime was a not only a breath of fresh air, but a giant tank of the stuff.
After that I watched most of the other anime that had been brought over to the states (Trigun, Samurai Champloo, Black Lagoon, all the studio ghibli movies, etc.) and got into those. Then took it a step further and started watching subbed stuff (my first real exposure to a lengthened amount of time of actual japanese being spoken.
After awhile of leeching off of the countries art forms that were being shipped overseas, I finally decided that I was going to take some time and actually learn about it. This was probably a couple years ago. I read, watched, and ate anything that would get me closer to understanding the culture that to me was abstract. It was in 2004 that the first thing that actually made me want to go to japan for even a short amount of time.
At the time I was really into this game called Street Fighter:3rd strike (I still am and benefit from having one of the best US arcades near me). I played/studied/and lived that game for a good couple months, until I knew everything that I could about it. I was addicted, and it was good. There is an international tournament for fighting games that is held in japan every year called Super Battle Opera. I began watching the videos and seeing the amazing level that the japanese players took the game to over there. All the techniques were over there months before someone in the US found out.
Then one night while going through the endless list of 3s videos, in the "related videos" column of youtube, I saw a video called "Life in Tokyo". At the time I knew Blogs existed, but didn't even think about someone video taping their lives and calling it a Vlog. I watched every episode of Mr.Cooney's collection (and continue too), at which point I would watch the vlogs of the fellow foreigners whom he would reference. This is the point where I thought that going to Japan for an extended amount of time might actually be a possibility. I quickly picked up hirigana katakana and began reading the pages at japanese.about.com trying to pick up anything that I could. There were no japanese classes available near me so I thought that this would be the next best thing.
Then, Tkyosam put up a video about a week or two ago about people learning japanese. He very briefly described the method that his friend Khatzumoto had shown to him.
After the video I clicked on the link to see what this method was. In one sitting I read almost the entire site. It made so much sense, and I was wondering how I never thought of it before. I immediately started planning how I was going about learning japanese (which needlessly to say, has changed), and thought about how once I got the RTK book, that I would be set to go. Well, it turned out that the book was not available at book stores near me and was going for 50+ on amazon.com. This was not good. I searched around and "found" the book online for the premium cost of 0.00 (I intend on mailing a check for a more appropriate amount to Mr.Heisig once I find a mailing adress or the book pays off). I sat down at my computer and then... I really didn't know what to do. I knew to read the book and go through the kanji, but what after. So I clicked the link to this site and started reading about what the heck I was actually supposed to do with this new book I got. That was a week ago, and I'm currently on kanji 430 (ya I split lesson 18 in half). But ya thats pretty much my story.
If I remember more I'll post. I hope to hear more stories.
I've watched anime and read manga and played games from Japan for around 20 years. That was obviously my introduction into it, since I really liked the (Americanized) video games, and then the subbed anime and translated mangas...
And for a long time, I thought that was why I wanted to learn Japanese.
I've finally realized that it's not, though. I really want to learn Japanese because it's an adventure. All the books, video, and games I enjoy, it's the adventure that I enjoy in them. That there's a culture so radically different from my own, and yet still so great... That's an adventure every day I delve into it.
Also, I -love- learning. I want to learn several other languages as well now, but the only culture I want to learn more about is still Japan.
At this point, my motivation for learning is mostly the learning itself. I find it fun and actually don't play, watch or read nearly as much as before I got serious about studying, and I don't miss it much. But my other motivation is that I know reading the stories in the original Japanese will be different than reading the translated ones, and there are many, many stories that have never been translated, including continuations of some of my favorite Mangas.
In addition, I'm not a very patient person. Being able to read the stories the day they come out, instead of waiting for someone to translate them... That'll be awesome. I can already read about 1/3 of what is in the easy mangas. Every sentence I manage to read and understand gives me more energy to do more. I've even learned some kanji there before I got to them in my 'real' studies.
In short: It's fun!
I live in Japan by accident.
I've had some interest in Japan for as long as I can remember, I mean who as a 5 year old kid didn't play samurai and ninja etc? Then when I got a bit older, I started to watch anime and play video games which I did for several years. In high school, I realized how fun it is to learn languages and decided to learn some VERY basic japanese. I liked it a lot, so I kept going and felt that I was slowly reaching a limit where I was learning way to slow. At the same time, I was kinda bored of Sweden and wanted to go somewhere else for a while, so I decided to move to Japan for a year and study japanese. Which I did. Living in Japan is what actually gave me motivation for real. Not only did I have to know japanese to live there, I know have tons of various interests which need the japanese language, I also have a girlfriend who I can only communicate with in Japanese, lots of japanese friends etc, so keeping motivation up is hardly a problem.
Nowadays I live in Sweden again and I've passed JLPT2. I keep studying Japanese so as to won't lose my ability. Of course, I also plan on taking JLPT1.
Videogames, Anime, and Manga is what got me looking at the Japanese language, eg. reading about it at generic language sites.
Then I see everyone saying: "Japanese is impossible! Created by space aliens, it transcends human thought! Not with ten thousand men could you learn Japanese, it is folly..."
So that pretty much settled it in stone.
Always thought it was interesting since I was a kid. I took German in high school, but even tried to (and failed horribly) to study Japanese on my own.
In college I toyed with the idea of foreign languages, but threw it out for the first year. The second year I was an RA (person in charge of a dorm hall) and had many international students. This inspired me to sign up for Japanese (I didn't want to continue German because I found it too similar to English). A week after the first term I was in love with learning languages again and dropped an insanely difficult 400 level math class and signed up for first year chinese.
I dropped Chinese after two terms deciding to focus on Japanese. A year ago before the start of summer (Spring 07) I finished a first year Japanese class. I thought about switching it to a major, but I would need to "skip" a year to be able to finish 4th year since I started 100 level Japanese in my second year of college. So I got the syllabus for the summer class, the study material, and I did my own self-study during the summer.
That's when I found out about AJATT, RtK, SRSes etc. It's also when I began to realize how massive languages are. But while self-studying I found out I really love the language and love learning it. In a way, pushing myself made me love it more.
So it's a year since that summer now and I've finished RtK and am just studying what I can, trying to balance motivation, time, and a relationship with immersing myself as much as I can.
Long ago, I decided to know 10 languages before turning 30. Japanese looked the most bad ass. So I started with it.
There are so many reasons, but the first time I heard Japanese my ears squealed with delight. It sounded so beautiful. It's been a love affair ever since.
kokeshidoll17 wrote:
There are so many reasons, but the first time I heard Japanese my ears squealed with delight. It sounded so beautiful. It's been a love affair ever since.
Heheh, I've heard a number of people cite this as their first interest in a language, but it's always confused/amused me, especially with the two I've happened to hear it the most with (Japanese and Korean). I really enjoy the sound of Japanese now, but I found it pretty awful and abrasive through quite a lot of my initial exposure. And Korean still causes me to be actively annoyed when I have to listen to it. I used to just take it as a fact of life that languages that different were obnoxious until you could understand them, so it's funny to hear the opposite.
Maybe I just happen to stumble on really obnoxious speakers. Like, say, politicians... ![]()
Anime, and Final Fantasy video games from the very first NES have been my inspirations.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only student of Japanese who doesn't care about anime, hates manga and fails to see the attraction of video games... :-) I also fail to see what is so special about 'the Japanese lifestyle' mentioned in one of the above posts. よろしくね。
mentat_kgs wrote:
Long ago, I decided to know 10 languages before turning 30. Japanese looked the most bad ass. So I started with it.
I think that's the most badass reason I've ever heard.
I too want to learn a lot of languages. But I picked Japanese because of my obsession with technology and singularity. I mean, the Japanese are just way ahead in technology it seems. Oh the nostalgia of watching Ghost in the Shell...
i'm in it for the takoyaki.
alyks wrote:
mentat_kgs wrote:
Long ago, I decided to know 10 languages before turning 30. Japanese looked the most bad ass. So I started with it.
I think that's the most badass reason I've ever heard.
I too want to learn a lot of languages. But I picked Japanese because of my obsession with technology and singularity. I mean, the Japanese are just way ahead in technology it seems. Oh the nostalgia of watching Ghost in the Shell...
My dear man, I am the very model of a singularitarian. But, on the topic of why I chose to learn Japanese? I was bored, I think.
QuackingShoe wrote:
I really enjoy the sound of Japanese now, but I found it pretty awful and abrasive through quite a lot of my initial exposure.
I didn't particularly care for Japanese when I first heard it, but I never found it 'awful'. Actually, I can't say I particularly care for the sound even now... I'd rate it no better or worse than English.
Thai, though, is an absolutely beautiful, musical language. I don't understand a word of it, and have no motivation to learn, but it's amazing to listen to.
Serge wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only student of Japanese who doesn't care about anime, hates manga and fails to see the attraction of video games...
I hear this comment about once a month on various forums I follow. You are far from alone. Your study materials will be a little harder to come by, though... Especially since you said you don't care about the culture, either. On a side note, I recently bought the first Harry Potter book in Japanese and it seems to be pretty easy to read. That may or may not be a help to you.
Serge wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only student of Japanese who doesn't care about anime, hates manga and fails to see the attraction of video games... :-) I also fail to see what is so special about 'the Japanese lifestyle' mentioned in one of the above posts. よろしくね。
Hmm... I like anime and manga a lot less than most people who study japanese, but I still enjoy them about as much as I'd enjoy american tv[i.e. not very much].
It's kind of annoying when I tell people that I'm learning Japanese, as everyone just assumes that I'm some kind of super anime lover...
As for my original reason for learning Japanese, I'm actually not that sure. I think I just got addicted to it. A while ago, Japanese sounded pretty dang cool to my uneducated ears[as did most foreign languages, but Japanese had the crazy writing]. One day, I found a copy of Pimsleur's Japanese I at the library. After completing it, I tried watching a movie in Japanese, and promptly realized that I'd need a lot more work.
Japanese is just so awesome and fun, I've been hooked on it ever since!
Or to copy mcjon, I was bored, I think.
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I'll elaborate more on why japanese and not spanish.
I want my 10 languages to be very different of each other, as much as possible.
Japanese sounded like a perfect choice. I fear as I learn japanese I will lose my interest on japanese culture, as it has already happened with english (ex hollywood movies addict).
wccrawford wrote:
Serge wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only student of Japanese who doesn't care about anime, hates manga and fails to see the attraction of video games...
I hear this comment about once a month on various forums I follow. You are far from alone. Your study materials will be a little harder to come by, though... Especially since you said you don't care about the culture, either. On a side note, I recently bought the first Harry Potter book in Japanese and it seems to be pretty easy to read. That may or may not be a help to you.
Where did I say I didn't care about the culture? And actually, it is good to know that there is diversity. Because I am not following any other forums and at times IT SEEMS that everyone here:
- plays videogames
- is a anime / manga fan
- teaches English if they live in Japan
- has a blog on 'study methods' used mainly to keep track of the number of characters they review on a given day
- is into transcribing sentences from books
wccrawford wrote:
Your study materials will be a little harder to come by, though...
My study materials for the past week have come exclusively in the form of obligatory reading on 先物取引 and オプション取引 that I'm being told I have to know by heart. Sometimes I wish I could go back and read some good old Harry Potter!..
Serge, I'm with you, although I still don't know why you decided to learn Japanese. What's your occupation anyway?
For me it was mainly a fascination with the writing system and the urge to learn a language vastly different from English.
1.)earliest influences obviously things like Godzilla, Ultraman, Star Blazers and the like on US television.
2.)videogames as a kid.
--the real reasons--
3.)visited Japan twice for about 10-14 days each in like '99 and '02 or so. I fell in LOVE with the country and intend to move there for awhile in a couple of years.
4.)I love the visual qualities of the written language (I'm an artist)
5.)I love the sound of Japanese spoken, unlike Chinese which I find difficult on my ears.
6.)I like learning, generally.
Put it all together and learning Japanese was a natural outcome.
Serge wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only student of Japanese who doesn't care about anime, hates manga and fails to see the attraction of video games... :-)
While I can respect one's interest originating from exposure to the culture itself, what honestly is so bad about becoming interested through media? There has to be something about a country that you are introduced to before you can actually foster an interest for it, whether it be hearing the language, seeing the language, having lived there for a little while, reading about culture some, ethnic background, media, etc. This suggestion is assuming a person doesn't wake up some random day with no previous knowledge of a country and blurts out "[Subject country] is awesome!" For most people, their introduction to Japan will obviously be through games, anime, manga, J-pop and the like because those are the Japanese products that are so easily internationally shared. Once a connection is made between a person and the country (and through media is definitely the easiest and most likely way), that person will probably begin exploring all the other aspects of that culture as well. From this a love of the country can be formed.
It's just bothering to hear someone speaking of other people's interests like their an inferior way of initiating a love for another country. Even small connections can spark worthwhile fascinations.
Why Japanese? I went to live there as an adventure 10 years ago, to teach English with my girlfriend. We almost went to Korea, but she had been to Japan before on an exchange, and spoke a little bit, so we thought the culture shock would be less.
We stayed for 3 years in Funabashi (in Chiba-Ken) and I loved the stimulation of trying to figure out signs and people's speech and different customs (although many of these things were also at times infuriating and frustrating!). But working at an English school every day and then going home and speaking English with your girlfriend in the evening doesn't help you progress too quickly.
That said, I went from zero Japanese to an intermediate level thanks to weekly lessons and the environment, but never learned much kanji until now, having discovered Heisig at the local Japan Foundation Library.
We're planning a nostalgia trip next year (maybe one month). This time I'd like to be able to read more and speak more.
So anime was never my inspiration! (but now I'm really into playing Go because i saw "Hikaru no Go" by accident and got hooked.)

