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mspertus Member
From: Chicago Registered: 2006-05-29 Posts: 84

Johnnyltn wrote:

I know you guys have your hands full but do you have any thoughts concerning the colors for the background? I had mentioned about the difficulty seeing the lettering on the red background testing area. Just thought I'd ask again in case this question might have slipped by.

Thanks again for the wonderful program.

I'll fix that in the next version. Might be a couple of weeks. Can you last til then?

mspertus Member
From: Chicago Registered: 2006-05-29 Posts: 84

Renske wrote:

If you release a new version, can I keep my current results somehow?

Yes. The next release will have code to import your old history.

Renske Member
From: Machiya, Tokyo Registered: 2006-09-10 Posts: 15

After 4 hours of non-stop working with your program i finally got to level 2 big_smile

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jondesousa Member
From: USA Registered: 2006-06-13 Posts: 134

I spent about 30 minutes on the level four test, saved my file, and closed excel to work on some other things.  When I tried to open the file the Test Kanji toolbar was not automatically opening.  I manually opened it, but when I tried to test it gave me this message:

The macro "Excel@Japanese.xls'!Testing.StartAffectingTest' cannot be found". 

I am also getting this message when I try to use any other functionality in the program.
I reinstalled the program and it gave me the same problem.  Has anyone else seen this?  It could be the computer I am using.  I will also try another computer as well.

Johnnyltn Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-08-14 Posts: 19

You guys are fantastic. Sure, I can wait for the color change. Thank you for considering it . I appreciate that.

By the way, I get the following Microsoft Excel dialog box whenever I try to open up Help from your toolbar. Any ideas on why and what I might be able to do about it?
Here's the message I get:

"Unable to open http://www.chubunkyo.jp/japanese.php. Can not open the internet server or proxy server."

mspertus Member
From: Chicago Registered: 2006-05-29 Posts: 84

Johnnyltn wrote:

You guys are fantastic. Sure, I can wait for the color change. Thank you for considering it . I appreciate that.

By the way, I get the following Microsoft Excel dialog box whenever I try to open up Help from your toolbar. Any ideas on why and what I might be able to do about it?
Here's the message I get:

"Unable to open http://www.chubunkyo.jp/japanese.php. Can not open the internet server or proxy server."

The original version of this program was Ocha No Kanji from (now defunct) choubunkyou. I just haven't updated the link or written a help file beyond the Welcome page.

darg_sama Member
From: Miyagi Registered: 2005-08-13 Posts: 22

jondesousa wrote:

I spent about 30 minutes on the level four test, saved my file, and closed excel to work on some other things.  When I tried to open the file the Test Kanji toolbar was not automatically opening.  I manually opened it, but when I tried to test it gave me this message:

The macro "Excel@Japanese.xls'!Testing.StartAffectingTest' cannot be found". 

I am also getting this message when I try to use any other functionality in the program.
I reinstalled the program and it gave me the same problem.  Has anyone else seen this?  It could be the computer I am using.  I will also try another computer as well.

I was actually running into a similar problem before... most likely if you use the CTRL+ shortcuts the program still functions properly, right? I fixed mine by opening Excel to an empty file, erasing the Excel@Japanese toolbar (view->toolbars->customize), then redownloading a fresh copy. It happened to me when I had an older version of the toolbar loaded which had problems.

You might want to wait for Mspertus to confirm that though as that's really his end of things ;P

mspertus Member
From: Chicago Registered: 2006-05-29 Posts: 84

darg_sama wrote:

jondesousa wrote:

I spent about 30 minutes on the level four test, saved my file, and closed excel to work on some other things.  When I tried to open the file the Test Kanji toolbar was not automatically opening.  I manually opened it, but when I tried to test it gave me this message:

The macro "Excel@Japanese.xls'!Testing.StartAffectingTest' cannot be found". 

I am also getting this message when I try to use any other functionality in the program.
I reinstalled the program and it gave me the same problem.  Has anyone else seen this?  It could be the computer I am using.  I will also try another computer as well.

I was actually running into a similar problem before... most likely if you use the CTRL+ shortcuts the program still functions properly, right? I fixed mine by opening Excel to an empty file, erasing the Excel@Japanese toolbar (view->toolbars->customize), then redownloading a fresh copy. It happened to me when I had an older version of the toolbar loaded which had problems.

You might want to wait for Mspertus to confirm that though as that's really his end of things ;P

Darg_sama,
This is a different problem. I think jondesousa has lost the macros (Excel sometimes loses the macros in a file if it becomes corrupt). He'll probably need to extract the file from the zipfile again sad

mspertus Member
From: Chicago Registered: 2006-05-29 Posts: 84

All this feedback is fantastic and gratifying, but in order to not distract from Fabrice's fantastic tool or stretch his generosity, I have created a forum at www.japaneselearningtools.com to discuss the Excel@Japanese spreadsheet.

yorkii Member
From: Moriya, Ibaraki Registered: 2005-10-26 Posts: 408 Website

How complete is the list of vocabualry? looking at the 2級 section of this website:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ik2r-myr/kanji/kanji6pa.htm I see they have included the word 愛憎 (as an example of the difference between the two lists) as one of the compounds. Is this a mistake on their part for including it or has it been left out of the "excel@japanese" file?

I really want to get a fully complete file before I start taking it to pieces, if this could be clarified, i would be most appreciative.

Yorkii

Renske Member
From: Machiya, Tokyo Registered: 2006-09-10 Posts: 15

yorkii wrote:

How complete is the list of vocabualry? looking at the 2級 section of this website:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ik2r-myr/kanji/kanji6pa.htm I see they have included the word 愛憎 (as an example of the difference between the two lists) as one of the compounds. Is this a mistake on their part for including it or has it been left out of the "excel@japanese" file?

I really want to get a fully complete file before I start taking it to pieces, if this could be clarified, i would be most appreciative.

Yorkii

愛憎 is an error on that list, its not meant to write in kanji.

愛憎 【あいぞう(P); あいにく】 (adj-na,n) likes and dislikes; (P)
生憎(P); 合憎 【あいにく】 (adj-na,adv,n) (uk) unfortunately; Sorry, but ..; (P)

Just the wrong kanji for the word you need to know.

yorkii Member
From: Moriya, Ibaraki Registered: 2005-10-26 Posts: 408 Website

thanks for the info.

so, i am now fairly confident that this list is complete.

Jawful Member
From: Mie-ken Registered: 2007-02-15 Posts: 93

I'm having trouble getting this to work in OS X. Maybe it won't work? When I first open it wants me to "update the links" to another workbook. I didn't even know Excel had a scripting language like this, heh.

edit: yeah i don't think it'll work, at least with this version. It has a compile error right off the bat. Probably the new version supposed to be coming out this year will work. But I should just get it for windows as I have that installed on here too.

Last edited by Jawful (2007 February 27, 5:24 pm)

watashimo Member
From: Germany Registered: 2007-04-28 Posts: 76

Just downloaded this file and played around with it. Great tool to study kanjis and readings. I?m preparing for JLPT 2, so this is perfect for me... if it would only work properly. I?m using Office 2007 and I just can?t save the file. Excel always crashes when I save.

Anybody knows if Office 2003 has the same problem?

suffah Member
From: New York Registered: 2006-09-14 Posts: 261

watashimo wrote:

Just downloaded this file and played around with it. Great tool to study kanjis and readings. I?m preparing for JLPT 2, so this is perfect for me... if it would only work properly. I?m using Office 2007 and I just can?t save the file. Excel always crashes when I save.

Anybody knows if Office 2003 has the same problem?

I've used it with 2003 and 2000 and it would crash every other time I tried to save.  LOVED the program, but gave up on it.

EDIT:  This was like over a year ago, no idea what version I was running back then.

Last edited by suffah (2007 September 11, 5:36 pm)

dilandau23 Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-09-13 Posts: 330

I seem to remember that the Anki developer was looking at a way to import your work from excel@japanese into Anki.  I don't know what if there was ever any progress on it though.

Megaqwerty Member
Registered: 2007-04-05 Posts: 318

I heard so many great things about this, but it refused to run in my copy of Excel (2007), so I just forgot about it.

And I'm a tad bit too attached to Anki to switch.

dilandau23 Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-09-13 Posts: 330

This is the accepted work around for the crashing problem (told to me by my friend who loves e@j).

1) Make sure you have macro security set to medium. (google it if you don't know how)
2) Open your e@j file and select disable macros.
3) Save your file
4) Close excel
5) Open you e@j file again and this time select enable macros
6) Run your tests
7) Save the file

If you follow these steps every time it is supposed to run fairly stable. I have tried these steps a couple of times and they seem to work.  My friend swears by this method.  Good luck to all those trying it.  I wonder what ever happened to Tango.

Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

I would like to use this, but I won't let MS Office touch my mac anymore now that iWork has a spreadsheet app. Even if I wanted to use Office, the next version of Mac Office removes scripting/macro support anyways. Apparently it would have been to much work to port the engine to x86 (despite the engine being a port from x86 originally)

Hope you switch to a more stable and/or open platform in the future.

Last edited by Jarvik7 (2007 September 11, 8:09 pm)

watashimo Member
From: Germany Registered: 2007-04-28 Posts: 76

@dilandau23: Which version of Excel is your friend using? I'm using Excel 2003 and your workaround worked the first time I tried it (after the first run), didn't work afterwards. Just spent two hours trying all kind of settings, nothing really works.

What pity, this looks like a great tool.

watashimo Member
From: Germany Registered: 2007-04-28 Posts: 76

@dilangau23: Just put the Office 2003 CD into my drive to install Excel 2003.
I have some questions with regards to you method: So after the first run I save my file without disabling the macros. Then I open this file again, disable the macros and save it. I close Excel another time and open the file again, this time with macros enabled. Sounds a little complicated, but if it works with Excel 2003, I'll be happy.

dilandau23 Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-09-13 Posts: 330

watashimo wrote:

@dilandau23: Which version of Excel is your friend using? I'm using Excel 2003 and your workaround worked the first time I tried it (after the first run), didn't work afterwards. Just spent two hours trying all kind of settings, nothing really works.

I have 2003, you know I don't really use the program often, perhaps I could get my friend to post more about it.  As for making it work, I had the method I wrote above work only when it is followed exactly, ie no extra "save" steps and the first save must be with macros off. Also if you save in the wrong order or incorrectly, I could envision the file itself becoming corrupt.  In that case you would perhaps have to start over.  This is unquestionably a program that requires you to make frequent backup copies of the file.  You may do better trying one of the premade Anki decks if what you like about e@j is just the fact that the input step has already been done.  E@j really is fragile.  I know even my friend said he would switch to Anki if he didn't have some much work already done in e@j.

EDIT:

Just put the Office 2003 CD into my drive to install Excel 2003.
I have some questions with regards to you method: So after the first run I save my file without disabling the macros. Then I open this file again, disable the macros and save it. I close Excel another time and open the file again, this time with macros enabled. Sounds a little complicated, but if it works with Excel 2003, I'll be happy.

No its like this and must be exact:
1) open file with macros off
2) save file
3) close excel
4) open file with macros on
5) do you "tests" (as many as you want apparently)
6) save file
7) close excel

Last edited by dilandau23 (2007 September 12, 6:59 pm)

Aikiboy Member
From: Kitakyushu Registered: 2006-12-09 Posts: 127 Website

Hi, I used this program last year to study for Level 2 and it's really useful.  I also had problems with excel.  I was running 2003 last year and here's my work around.

Unzip the file so it is fresh and clean. The first time around, enable your macros and do your tests.  Then save to ANOTHER file name.  When you want to use it next time, open the ORIGINAL unzipped file.  When it prompts to import a history, select your renamed file.  From then on save to that file, but always start from the clean file and import.

I don't know if the program has changed since last year, but good luck!

Reply #49 - 2009 June 02, 7:10 pm
ahibba Member
Registered: 2008-09-04 Posts: 528 Website

Nice tool.

I love Excel and macros!