Hi all,

I have completed Chapter 8 and copied it into the google spreadsheet.

I have proofread it, but it'd be great if someone else checks it too.

Cheers

I've just finished chapter 9!  However, I don't have access to the main spreadsheet to upload it!  Should I just send my part to someone instead?!  I wish all books were so easy and quick to type up!  Zarxrax, I sent you a private mail with my gmail address in it, please add it or tell me what to do!!

Phauna, you should be added now.

I think my copy of the book will finally arrive tomorrow, and then I'll get my chapter typed up right away.

Cool, I've added chapter 9, thanks.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= … &pli=1

Alright, chapter 2 is now online. :-)

Cool, I think we're almost done. All we're missing is Ch.11 and Ch. 14. Oh, and some proofreading.

Dramas are a great idea, and very useful tool. But it doesn't need to be a mutually exclusive, "instead of" activity. Dramas are an important way to maximise audio/visual inpute *alongside* sentence miming for Khatzumoto's 10,000 sentences. And sure, sentences should come from a range of sources, including, but certainly not only, from dramas. It's much quicker to take sentences direct from this book of sentences with English translations than to try to gather sentences from dramas. So it would be a shame to ignore this resource.

watashimo and Mcjon01, are you guys having trouble with chapters 11 and 14? Would you like someone else to take them?

I started adding the sentences into my srs today to learn them. I think this is going to end up being really helpful, as although I have a good grasp on things like grammar and such, I can't even really hold a basic conversation. The point really hit home recently as a lot of my friends got back from study abroad, and now they can talk Japanese, and I can't. The phrases in this book seem like they should do wonders for general conversation/chit-chat.

While I was at it, I added the male/female symbols to the first entries where they are used on the first sheet. I found out you can actually bring them up in the IME by typing おす or めす. Just thought I'd put that out there in case anyone would rather just use the symbols instead of having the words male or female.

Mcjon01 wrote:

I added what I had already done of chapter 14, but someone else should probably finish it.

No problem finishing it. As soon as I get access to it, I'll hand it over!

I'm personally with the critics at the start of this topic. My friend bought this book when we lived in Japan, early 2007. He thought it was hilarious, but fact is that many of the sentences were not only outdated, but also obscure. I'm especially talking about the various "funny" ones which has to do with sex etc. Often Japanese people wouldn't even understand the phrases, let alone think he was funny.

I've only skimmed the book at a bookstore, but most of the content fell into either of two categories: very basic, or unusable & worthless (dialectical, outdated, etc).

I suppose for a learner who doesn't have the opportunity to actually socialize with native speakers the basic content can be useful, but they have no way to tell it apart from the chaff. If you can you should ALWAYS learn slang, dialects, and casual speech patterns from a native speaker of the same gender. Books can never do them justice (関西弁 books are THE awful).

Last edited by Jarvik7 (2008 September 02, 6:02 pm)