Does this happen to anyone else?

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Reply #1 - 2008 July 27, 7:02 pm
Ryuujin27 Member
Registered: 2006-12-14 Posts: 824

Recently I've been starting to see that cards that have made it to piles 5...6, even 7 and 8 now just seem to be randomly forgotten. I hit the keyword during review and bam, instant blank. Can't think of a damn thing. Then I hit "show" and I nearly always want to hit my head against my monitor for the frustration of it.

Is this normal for anyone else? I mean, I think this is happening way more than it should, honestly. It's happened for about 20 of those cards so far. I can understand maybe 10... but 20? Those have been reviewed so much it should be in solid memory.

I hope this is normal...

Also, for the people who are finished: How much do you find yourself still failing cards? Is it often? Say you have about 200 cards up for review and you've been done for... 3 months. What would your fail pile look like, you think?

I'm only at 1000 and starting to get really frustrated with review. Combine that with my recent lack of time for any kind of kanji learning (other than review), and it's not good.

Reply #2 - 2008 July 27, 7:14 pm
PParisi Member
From: Columbus, GA Registered: 2007-07-19 Posts: 57

At 850, I've met the same difficulty: kanji that were quite easy a month ago are biting me on the butt. I think it is because I need to make my stories more vivid or do a much better job of imagining them as I'm practicing producing the kanji.

Reply #3 - 2008 July 27, 7:19 pm
scout Member
From: North Carolina Registered: 2005-11-29 Posts: 63

I'd say it's normal.  I also occasionally blank on primitives.  In those cases, I fail the card where I forgot the primitive, but pass ones that come later in the session with the same primitive (assuming I get them right.)  That way at least you get one card going through again with the trouble primitive.

To be honest the "made a mistake" option is one big reason why I decided to move to Anki.  There are times when I messed up primitive placement or remembered 4 out of 5 priminitives and it feels like a waste to completely reset them back to stack 1.

As far as recall rates ... that's a bit tricky since I've gotten really lazy at times where cards stacked up for 2 or 3 weeks.  I currently have an 83% recall rate for cards older than a month in Anki, but my guess it that would be closer to 90% if I didn't take long breaks.

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Reply #4 - 2008 July 27, 7:20 pm
Ryuujin27 Member
Registered: 2006-12-14 Posts: 824

I was afraid of hearing that... gah. I barely have the time to review, let alone rework stories. Plus studying... damn.

Reply #5 - 2008 July 27, 7:21 pm
QuackingShoe Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-04-19 Posts: 721

It happens to me sometimes. When it does, for me, it's always one of two things.
One, it's always been a problem kanji for me. So I still forget it from time to time.
Two, and most frequent, it's a kanji similar in shape, meaning, or story to kanji I've recently learned, and it managed to become partially overwritten. After that, I take a moment to get them both straight in my head and don't usually have the problem again.. unless more kanji with the same meaning come up. This just reinforces the 'you don't really know one until you know them all' principle, I guess. For this reason, I imagine this problem will largely go away once I'm finished. Although of course I'll still be learning new kanji, albeit less, so I expect it to still crop up from time to time maybe.

Reply #6 - 2008 July 27, 7:27 pm
Wizard Member
From: Osaka Registered: 2008-06-13 Posts: 96

Sometimes I have bad days where I fail lots of cards I shouldn't, I usually just stop reviewing and come back to it later and it often solves the problem.

Reply #7 - 2008 July 27, 7:38 pm
cracky Member
From: Las Vegas Registered: 2007-06-25 Posts: 260

Wizard wrote:

Sometimes I have bad days where I fail lots of cards I shouldn't, I usually just stop reviewing and come back to it later and it often solves the problem.

This happens to me too, some days stuff just doesn't want to click.

Reply #8 - 2008 July 27, 7:56 pm
alyks Member
From: Arizona Registered: 2008-05-31 Posts: 914 Website

It happens to the best of us. I usually fail the kanji, then hit easy when it comes up again.

Reply #9 - 2008 July 27, 9:03 pm
Ryuujin27 Member
Registered: 2006-12-14 Posts: 824

Well, I guess I just have to keep plugging away. Good to know it's not just me, though. Thanks guys.

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