Advice for a beginner?

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Reply #1 - 2008 July 15, 8:37 pm
DanielC New member
From: Florida Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 4

I've just started RTK using the sample .pdf and this website  3 days ago, I'm at frame 70 right now; what would you guys suggest I do alongside this?

Reply #2 - 2008 July 15, 8:41 pm
woodwojr Member
From: Boston Registered: 2008-05-02 Posts: 530

Pretty much what you're doing, except faster wink (I kid, I kid--while you probably can speed up once you catch your stride, choosing a good pace is more important than choosing a fast pace). What other Japanese studying have you done?

~J

Reply #3 - 2008 July 15, 8:48 pm
DanielC New member
From: Florida Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 4

woodwojr wrote:

Pretty much what you're doing, except faster wink (I kid, I kid--while you probably can speed up once you catch your stride, choosing a good pace is more important than choosing a fast pace). What other Japanese studying have you done?

~J

Well, I have a little schedule thing on renshuu.org, the JLPT section, and I've read through some of the sections on Tae Kim's grammar guide. I know kana well, except for parts of katakana, they just seem harder to remember for some reason. Truth is I've never had a very good memory...

I'm just afraid that whatever I might be doing alongside RTK would be harmful to my overall progress...I know I've seen others express the same concern here and other places.

I also would love to get some books, like Understanding Basic Japanese Grammar (I read a topic on it here, it sounded nice), but I'm broke. I guess I need to get a job. neutral

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Reply #4 - 2008 July 15, 9:00 pm
johnzep Member
From: moriya, ibaraki Registered: 2006-05-14 Posts: 373

Alot of people recommend pimsleur to do concurrently with RTK.

And if you are doing basic grammar from a textbook that's good too.

But I would say don't focus too much on vocab and readings.  That's not too say you shouldn't incidently pick up words and readings (say while studying grammar)...but I wouldn't focus on it heavily.  This is just because of effeciency.  You will learn new readings and vocab much faster after RTK, so don't let relatively inefficent vocab/reading study slow down your RTK.

Reply #5 - 2008 July 15, 9:01 pm
woodwojr Member
From: Boston Registered: 2008-05-02 Posts: 530

Well, if you're already relatively experienced, I've found it's helpful to practice sentences that contain kanji you've gotten in RTK. However, if you're at a point where that would be primarily learning rather than review, it may slow you down which is undesirable.

~J

Reply #6 - 2008 July 15, 9:18 pm
DanielC New member
From: Florida Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 4

woodwojr wrote:

Well, if you're already relatively experienced, I've found it's helpful to practice sentences that contain kanji you've gotten in RTK. However, if you're at a point where that would be primarily learning rather than review, it may slow you down which is undesirable.

~J

I wouldn't call myself relatively experienced; I think that would be more learning than review, yeah.


Thanks john; I'll take your advice.

Reply #7 - 2008 July 15, 10:20 pm
TGWeaver Member
From: 大阪 Registered: 2007-06-08 Posts: 99

get a textbook and get going. something like minna no nihongo is good. it uses kana from the get-go, so you'll be forced to learn it. it's a bit harder to start with, but it's really useful in the end. if that looks to hard, the Genki series is good, and so is the J-Bridge series. they all come with CDs for listening practice (though you may have to buy it separately).

pimsleur is fine if you don't have access to a native speaker or private tutor. if you can get either one of those, skip pimsleur.

learn the kana ASAP.

and don't worry about "what comes next" until you've finished the simple textbooks. if you start thinking about what comes next before what you need to do right now, you'll find yourself making study plans instead of studying.

Reply #8 - 2008 July 16, 7:33 pm
uberstuber Member
Registered: 2007-03-27 Posts: 238

Focus on finishing remembering the kanji as soon as you comfortably can.
People here have had success with pimsleur on the side, so feel free to do that too.

Reply #9 - 2008 July 16, 8:12 pm
cracky Member
From: Las Vegas Registered: 2007-06-25 Posts: 260

I did the first wave of 'Japanese With Ease' alongside RTK, and the second wave after I finished RTK.

Reply #10 - 2008 July 16, 10:37 pm
GoodSirJava Member
From: USA Registered: 2006-07-17 Posts: 38

Acquaint yourself with the material at alljapaneseallthetime.com, if only to develop an understanding of why it's not a good idea to do anything else concurrently with RTK1.

Reply #11 - 2008 July 16, 10:56 pm
mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

Never give up.

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