IceCream wrote:

ヒゲドライバー！！！
anyone else who knows anything else like this, please let me know!! Doesn't matter if it's got lyrics...
one without lyrics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrew1qwH2oU
one with lyrics: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9490647
！！：D

By 'lyrics' do you mean 'vocals'? ;p

You could try Googling for 'Japanese chiptunes'... such as: http://www.seekjapan.jp/article/jz/2515 … une+Albums

mezbup wrote:

Man I am SO glad I have a jpopsuki account! Thanks to some of these recommendations i've basically tripled the amount of songs I've got

For some gay reason youtube is NOT working at all for atm so you'll just have to look them up yourself but here's a few more good bands that I'm really into these days.

ONE OK ROCK
STARBOARD
Apogee
The Local Art
Me-Al Art
Uplift Spice
Veltpunch

Yeah Youtube is so gay lately. Buncha [homosexuals]. (Gay = bad in case lurkers were wondering. Don't be a [homosexual]! This has nothing to do with homosexuality, though.)

[Edited by 風

Note: Gay as bad comes from insulting a man/rule/etc who goes by the book. He/it doesn't do what a guy would "normally" do and thus, he/it is gay. Ex: Mr. Lanky wouldn't give me a B grade because he says I have a terrible attitude. Oh, he's so gay. Perhaps no harm is meant in using it, but that doesn't change what it is.]

ruiner wrote:

Yeah Youtube is so gay lately.

Actually.................... it kind of is. Every other recommended video features a gay vlogger.

TheVinster wrote:

Is that a good site? I checked it out, and registration is invite only.

It used to be, but now I think it's completely worthless. In the past, I could find almost anything there, but last time I used their v2.0, I couldn't find anything that wasn't essentially a brand new release.

aphasiac wrote:

ruiner wrote:

Yeah Youtube is so gay lately... This has nothing to do with homosexuality, though.)

It does though - it's the same word, and therefore it associates "gay" with badness. I'd rather you didn't use that term - thanks.

Forgive me for asking and ruining a possibly deadpan response with perfect pitch, I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this is the Internet, after all, and even Jarvik7 misses things sometimes: You do know I was being sarcastic, right?

Edit: Oh, I posted my previous series of comments (http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?pid=88340#p88340) on the topic as nest0r, so I guess the clues aren't as strong. Damn aliases.


[Edit by 風]

Last edited by ruiner (2010 February 04, 3:16 pm)

Cool. If you're gonna debate it, it would probably be a good idea to start a new thread. This one has been derailed enough.

I have to second offense of the word 'gay' being used negatively. You don't use discriminated minorities as a negative slang term, that's just really poor taste :\
As a learner of Japanese and someone who respects the culture, would you not be a little unhappy if people started saying "jap" to mean "shitty" and other phrases?
Just replace "gay" with other words and you'll see how offensive and derogatory it is to the people group:

"Wow, that party last night was totally chink man, it sucked"
"That music is so nigger"
"I got an F on the test because the teacher is totally Jew"

:\ it's not okay.

Maaan, this thread is SO cheese dip. I'm not sure whether that's a good or bad thing, though. Kinda depends on the kind of cheese, or brand of dip if it's premade. I could sure go for some Velveeta right now, I can tell ya that much!

Some goodness I've been into lately:

Fox Loco Phantom - 妄想ガール http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dq-v66tK_0 (high energy indies alt rock)

朝生愛 (Aso Ai) - Islands (King Crimson cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcz4gMXFssE (singer/songwriter; very mellow and PAINFULLY scarce on Youtube. This particular song is from a split with Wata of Boris and but a shadow of her album material)

101A - 雪の世界 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ9zIFgOFPQ (sort of experimental, slightly gothic rock; sometimes a little on the dark side)

té - 如何に強大な精神や力といえども知性なくしては『無』に等しい。 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHhJ_azqAsA (instrumental band, but who needs lyrics when you have song titles like that!)

Envy - A Warm Room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5qPsCd0CM8 (because 神々 knows I haven't raved about this band enough already)

Last edited by Burritolingus (2010 February 04, 9:12 pm)

Genius nest0r

And I've never tried velveeta. What the hell is that?

TheVinster wrote:

mezbup wrote:

Man I am SO glad I have a jpopsuki account!

Is that a good site? I checked it out, and registration is invite only.

Anyway, I still highly recommend Ikimono Gakari (いきものがかり).

I've come across it in the past and it was registration only back then too but of course (like it is now) registration was closed. I was lucky enough (and I do feel genuinely lucky) to remember it a couple of months ago when I was looking for something but couldn't obtain it so I went there and registration was open. Inviting is at present disabled.

Personally there's nothing I CAN'T find on there! It's leagues easier than trying to find stuff any other way. I've downloaded about 40 CD's from there so far and on every artists page it has a recommendation graph type thing that I've found so many more good bands through. Love it.

@the gay debate:

Don't give a shit, the world is TOO P.C these days and that's depressing. My usage of it was a bona-fide 使い道 and that's that. There are countless times where it's used as an interjection to express feelings of disappointment arising from circumstances being other than what one expected. "Being gay" in this case refers to something temporarily creating such a situation and is part of the English language.

Let's say under normal circumstances a person is straight (that's a fact) and so when you see someone you just assume they are. Lets say it's a girl you like and you ask her out but she's a lesbian (gay) and so she won't go out with you and that leads to disappointment because she's gay. So the feeling here is that it was supposed to go smoothly like normal but owing to circumstancing out of the ordinary it didn't work which lead to disappointment. One can see how gay could refer to such a situation.

Applying the above logic I don't see how things like "Jap" "Chink" ect fit the bill.

It's just as pointless for me to type all this as it was for anyone to comment on it in the first place. It won't change how either of us think, feel or act. So let's keep it that.

cangy wrote:

nest0r wrote:

but since I'm going through my 2008 music discoveries, I might as well mention Mutyumu

Yeah, they're worth mentioning a few more times.  I've heard them compared to Miranda Sex Garden which I guess is as good a description as anything else.  Just wish they'd play again...  In the mean time トロベリーソングオーケストラ are not entirely dissimilar and are actually playing a few times this month (also limited express will be in town this month too!)

Ha, I actually edited my comment to remove that recommendation when I noticed the kanjified name in the first page of this thread. Guess I'll unedit now. And Strawberry Song Orchestra looks interesting!

@mezbup I get it, 'gay' just means 'negatively abnormal' to you. Not insulting to gays at all! At any rate, most people who are the type to use the word 'gay' to mean 'bad' I already assume are at, ah, a certain level of personal development to have used it in the first place, so don't worry, I don't point out the perpetuation of bigotry through language for the sake of the people I'm reacting against, I'm just trying to balance the atmosphere and stand up for my principles in general, hoping to get a warm and fuzzy feeling when I see someone who thinks the same as I do on the topic (such as shirokuro or Aijin).

Last edited by nest0r (2010 February 05, 3:47 am)

mezbup wrote:

Don't give a shit, the world is TOO P.C these days and that's depressing.

Politically correctness serves a function. Some people tend to over do it. This is not one of those situations, though. Many were offended, not an overly correct few.

mezbup wrote:

My usage of it was a bona-fide 使い道 and that's that. There are countless times where it's used as an interjection to express feelings of disappointment arising from circumstances being other than what one expected. "Being gay" in this case refers to something temporarily creating such a situation and is part of the English language.

I could argue with you here (the English language part), but I'm not going to.

Applying the above logic I don't see how things like "Jap" "Chink" ect fit the bill.

Interesting.

Aijin mentioned jap, chink, nigger, and jew. You stopped at chink. I could be speculating here, but I think you realize the power of these words and that is why you chose to omit them. You chose to censor yourself when the words in question were blatantly offensive and yet refuse to bend on the word gay. This means that you do employ a certain level of P.C. I believe you do realize that a single line of logic doesn't remove all the offenses associated with a word. I believe you do realize there is truth to what Aijin has said, even if only a little. I believe that if you chose to extend your PCness to the word gay, even though using it has become habit, it would be a sign of maturity.

If you choose not to, well, just try not using it here... please.

Think about it for a while. I have faith in you.

＠皆の者

Please discuss any further opinions on this topic (or the one nestor linked to) here:
http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?pid=91685#p91685

Why did I not hear of The Mad Capsule Markets till recently? They were awesome. I've been listening to '1990-1996' and '1997-2004'.

I also recommend Ryoichi Endo's music (vocals for Soft Ballet, Ends). Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMUsDjjyPy8 - Soft Ballet - Earth Born
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTQHs1_jZ_4 - Soft Ballet - Ko-Ka-Ge-Ni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77D9K5awnCQ - Soft Ballet - White Shaman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyntsfRjq4M - Ends - すべてに等しく吹きつける風のように
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtAQZ71fuKs - Ends - 百花繚乱

Also:

The Mad Capsule Markets - Bit Crusher - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxyntF3EPXA

The Mad Capsule Markets - Kami-Uta - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxOKYVd_MI

Last edited by ruiner (2010 March 08, 7:08 pm)