RECENT TOPICS » View all
No, it has nothing to do with that. Anki's graphics library (Qt) is less mature on the Mac platform, plus Linux and win32 share more UI conventions (the mac chooses to do things differently sometimes). And personally I don't think 'so many' is that fair - it's not that bad, is it? Quite a large number of Mac users tend to complain about parts of the interface being "not mac like", but it's either accept the version as it is, or do without. :-)
Well, I would define that as quirky. But there is still stuff like it often causing the Japanese input manager to crash or hang (I have ONLY ever had this occur when I'm using it in Anki...I can't even understand how it is possible, but it happens!), inserting spaces if command+space is used to switch between language inputs, the inconsistency of whether or not command+, will bring up the properties menu or not, the lack of the spellchecker, and now the lack of hotkey deck switching. I still don't understand what interferences caused you to kill the quick switching between decks. The lack of that makes me so very sad. ![]()
Don't get me wrong, I am VERY appreciative that there is a mac port available, because I am too lazy to program something like this myself. We Mac users just tend to be spoiled little brats when it comes to a lot of little things. ![]()
None of these things prevent me from using it, they just slow me down, y'know?
Last edited by revenantkioku (2008 July 13, 4:32 am)
Are you saying spaces are still being inserted in 0.9.6?
As for the hot key switching, someone complained that it interferes with some foreign character input. You could add the shortcuts back in a plugin.
Yeah, still puts the spaces in.
I wonder wtf those hotkeys interfered with. Been using that for a long time without any troubles.
Last edited by revenantkioku (2008 July 13, 5:24 am)
If the problem is still there, then please report it to the Qt folk.
The shortcuts interfered with a keystroke to generate some accent mark like an umlaut if I recall correctly. If you are typing English and Japanese, it wouldn't have affected you.
Hrmf. Well, since you have the old code would it be relatively painless for you to make a plugin? Or should I go find my old Python book? :lol
revenantkioku wrote:
Yeah, still puts the spaces in.
Hmm. Works fine here (10.5.4). I'm honestly impressed with how well anki behaves on os x compared to other QT apps. Making a program that works on so many platforms is no easy task.
For the "flash my brain" app on the app store I'm building a card set for RTK 1 if any one is interested
radical_tyro wrote:
revenantkioku wrote:
Yeah, still puts the spaces in.
Hmm. Works fine here (10.5.4). I'm honestly impressed with how well anki behaves on os x compared to other QT apps. Making a program that works on so many platforms is no easy task.
And I have 10.5.3 on my iMac and MacBook Pro and both have 0.9.6...it was doing it on my MBP Friday but isn't now and is still doing it on my iMac.
Like I said, I appreciate Anki being available as opposed to not, but it is what it is, y'know.
I figure this thread was as good a place as any to strike this conversation up. I got an iPhone on release day. I was very happy, because I live in an inaka with a Softbank store. I didnt even have to wait in a line, I just walked in and bought it. That made me very happy but I quickly turned sad.
Has anyone besides me found the new iPhone/iTouch 2.0 Japanese input to be painfully slow? I think it is so slow that people may demand their money back for the iPhone. It borders on unusable. It even causes music to stall on occasion during a lookup. Just plain bad. Not to mention, there seems to be no way to get your phone to vibrate the second you receive an email to your iPhone Softbank account that also makes the think nearly unusable for Japanese folks and their email heavy phone use. I pray these two things get fixed really soon and I advise others to warn Japanese friends about them as they should be deal breakers.
Last edited by dilandau23 (2008 July 14, 2:50 am)
Not even my extensive Apple-whorism would allow me to go with Softbank, sorry. As much as I want one, it is not happening.
igonosaito wrote:
For the "flash my brain" app on the app store I'm building a card set for RTK 1 if any one is interested
I'm interested. When my touch gets here I'm going to load that on it. How do you like the program? Do you need to have the full desktop version to make cards?
Any opinions on the "Flash my Brain" software? The fact that you need $40 software to make your cards outside of the iPod is insulting.
This StudyCards seems to be free to upload, but hrmm..
Last edited by revenantkioku (2008 July 15, 10:57 pm)
I have no problems with the simple keitai interface for Anki. (Not the Flash one, the oooold one.)
Just turn the iPhone on its side, then just zoom in on the teeny-tiny buttons. Once you get used to it, it's not a big deal, and it's free. And it's Anki, so you know it's robust.
And you can use whatever decks you already have in Anki. It does a nice job of syncing.
I'd love to have a special web app for anki's keitai website for the iPhone, but the way it is now is just fine, considering that a week ago, there would be no way at all for me to review on the go without a laptop.
Only other option is to wait until they jailbreak the 3G.
dilandau23 wrote:
Has anyone besides me found the new iPhone/iTouch 2.0 Japanese input to be painfully slow? I think it is so slow that people may demand their money back for the iPhone. It borders on unusable. It even causes music to stall on occasion during a lookup.
This was one of the things that worried me about the iphone. But then I found out about their clever input system where you have two taps for every kana and I thought it might be quicker than a traditional keitai where you have five clicks for kana like お こ そ etc. I read in Nikkei Trendy that you get used to it. I'd be interested to hear how you feel after a few weeks.
The slowing down when playing music sounds like something that would be irritating though. A lack of responsiveness was something that would drive me up the wall when I had a windows mobile device. I was hoping that the iphone would be better.
I'm not a buyer yet. I think that they'll probably drop the price after 6 months or so and docomo will probably get in on the action. I might go for it then.
rich_f wrote:
I have no problems with the simple keitai interface for Anki. (Not the Flash one, the oooold one.)
Just turn the iPhone on its side, then just zoom in on the teeny-tiny buttons. Once you get used to it, it's not a big deal, and it's free. And it's Anki, so you know it's robust.
And you can use whatever decks you already have in Anki. It does a nice job of syncing.
I'd love to have a special web app for anki's keitai website for the iPhone, but the way it is now is just fine, considering that a week ago, there would be no way at all for me to review on the go without a laptop.
Only other option is to wait until they jailbreak the 3G.
The only problem is the iPhone requires Softbank, which from what everyone tells me will basically turn it into just an iPod Touch where I live.
wrightak wrote:
...I thought it might be quicker than a traditional keitai where you have five clicks for kana like お こ そ etc. I read in Nikkei Trendy that you get used to it. I'd be interested to hear how you feel after a few weeks...
I thought so too, and sometimes it is but when it slows down in responsiveness it REALLY becomes unusable. I am sure it is a software bug and will be fixed. From what I can tell, it gets like this when you are typing in a field that supports an incremental search and the IME is trying to look up auto-complete suggestions for your kana at the same time.
I found this blog post and, while I don't agree with most of what is said(the guy is a fool about the GPS), it is a good look into what people may come to think about it.
I think #1 (at least the part about it freezing) and #5 are spot on. I know he didn't understand how to "flick" type at first but he admits his mistake in an edit. If I can get access to my schools camera I will try to make a video of the thing locking up.
iPhone購入者が語る。まだiPhoneを買わない方がいい7つの理由
I'm pretty glad I got the iPod touch instead. :-)
There's obviously a big difference between software problems that can be ironed out and design flaws. If you're saying that the only problem with the input system is that it hangs most of the time then hopefully this will be fixed. But the guy on the blog seems to think that even when it doesn't hang, it's about a third as fast. You don't agree?
Also, why do you think he's a fool about the GPS? As far as I can tell, he's saying that when he went to the countryside, he couldn't use the maps application. It sounds like that's a data transmission problem and not a GPS one though. You mentioned you're in 'inaka', how do you find it?
I reckon point number 5 will be fixed quickly because there's no way that Japanese consumers will stand for a lack of push email.
Still, the deal breaker for me is softbank because with my pre-paid softbank phone, I get zero reception in my apartment and in the local supermarkets. Both of them. In central Tokyo.
revenantkioku wrote:
Any opinions on the "Flash my Brain" software? The fact that you need $40 software to make your cards outside of the iPod is insulting.
This StudyCards seems to be free to upload, but hrmm..
I'm also curious about this. So you do need the 40$ desktop app in order to make cards?
He seems to have changed his post back to its original form. When I saw the post the first time he had an edit with a link to the first commenter saying he was corrected about how to type. He didn't know about the "flick" input, he only knew the long press. I am pretty slow typing Japanese on both the iPhone and on a regular phone so I guess I would say, when it doesn't freeze up, the typing is faster but the auto-complete lookups seems a bit slower. At the end they probably balance out. The freeze ups happen quite often so it is a bit hard to say.
As for the GPS comment what I didn't agree with is his saying that even though he had full bars he couldn't get a lock. The bars are not an indication of satellite signal acquisition. I agree with the commenter that says it takes a bit of time to get a lock in the beginning but then it stays pretty solid (unless you go into a building of course).
Also, I have always had weak signal strength in my school, but the iPhone and my old phone both work fine with the signal I do get(1 to 2 bars). Elsewhere it is fine. I have had no problems with my iPhone anywhere in Tokyo, but admittedly, I only spent one weekend there since I got it. I think Softbank has done a lot to improve their network from the old days of Vodaphone. A lot of the negative press them seem to get, is undeserved I feel. Maybe they were bad in the past, but since I have been in Japan, they have done nothing but try to change the way the mobile phone industry game is played and for that they need to be applauded. Since I switched to Softbank from AU my bill dropped by 5000 yen on average (but thanks to Anki I now spend that amount on packet fees) per month. Other than that change, I honestly can't tell one carrier from the other.
Last edited by dilandau23 (2008 July 16, 10:15 pm)
I rented a Softbank SIM for 5 weeks last fall and traveled all over the country, and I only noticed a loss of signal a few times the whole time, outside of inaka. Once was in Nara, but I got lousy reception on the Global SIM I had that used the NTT network, too, so maybe it was just that one hotel. Dunno. Otherwise, I had no problems with Softbank in Okazaki, Nagoya, Osaka, Fukuoka, Hiroshima, Nagano, Sendai, and Tokyo. Okay, it dropped calls a couple of times in Okazaki, but that's not a huge surprise.
Note that I wouldn't recommend making too many calls on a rental SIM, as it can be pricey. I only used mine for incoming calls, because those were free. Heh heh... and I used the phone number to get my point cards at Bic and Yodobashi. "I don't know my address yet, but I can give you my phone number." ![]()
I've been using my US iPhone for a few days now, and I like it a lot. I especially love doing Anki reviews whenever I'm stuck in line somewhere.
Viva 3G, viva the keitai interface!
Isn't the regular web interface easier to use on the iphone at the moment? The keitai interface seems to require resizing on every page reload.
I'm not sure what the problem is with Softbank - but I've been using J-Phone/Vodafone/Softbank for many years now and have never had any problems with reception.
The only place I ever lose the signal is in the elevators of very tall buildings in central Tokyo.
I think I'll get myself an iPhone when they eventually end up in stock again....
Last edited by shimouma (2008 July 17, 3:12 am)
resolve wrote:
Isn't the regular web interface easier to use on the iphone at the moment? The keitai interface seems to require resizing on every page reload.
Yes it is much easier, I was going to say the same thing. If, however, you have cards with different size fonts or with a bit more information than usual be prepared to do some scrolling.

