1 thing I don't understand..

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Reply #1 - 2008 June 08, 7:57 pm
emily00 Member
From: Ohio Registered: 2007-12-05 Posts: 21

Hi all I'm new here, I'm currently in community college japanese courses but we're currently learning kanji pretty slow so I've started up on RTK too, and so far I 'know' about a total of 80 or so kanji, mixed from in here and in my class.

I was wondering, what about readings? The on-yomi and kun-yomi readings that is, while in my class we've been learning those a long with every kanji, I so far haven't seen anything about the readings in RTK. Later on will it start teaching the readings too?

Thanks,
Emily

Reply #2 - 2008 June 08, 8:03 pm
Zarxrax Member
From: North Carolina Registered: 2008-03-24 Posts: 949

Volume 1 of RTK focuses solely on getting you to be able to write the kanji from memory and be able to know a rough meaning for them. There is a 2nd volume of RTK which teaches readings but most people don't really recommend it. I think many people here agree that the best way to learn readings is from words and sentences, learning them in context. Being able to recognize and remember the writing of the kanji makes this vastly easier.

Reply #3 - 2008 June 08, 9:35 pm
QuackingShoe Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-04-19 Posts: 721

Yes, the method involves learning how to WRITE all of the 2000+ common use kanji in a few months, and then focusing on reading (either continuing through RTK or with some other method.) It's considered more efficient in this method to divide and conquer. The book itself explains it's method, so you might consider reading it.
Using this method, by the way, you will want to approach kanji learning at an incredibly faster rate than your college courses will, otherwise you're kindof defeating the purpose (which is to learn them quickly and then move on). 15-20 a day is not beyond the reach of most people using this site, it seems. Some go quite a bit faster, and some, especially those of us who are doing this as more of a laid back hobby, go quite a bit slower. Let your goal and ability guide...

If you're interested in the effectiveness of dividing the writing/meaning with the readings like this, there are posts all about the forum that you can peruse which testify to it's successes and failings. In my personal experience, though I'm not quite finished with the book yet, I find new vocabulary items (and by extension readings) infinitely easier to pick up, and am able to remember their kanji makeup and how to write them with little to no additional strain. So I recommend.

Last edited by QuackingShoe (2008 June 08, 9:37 pm)

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Reply #4 - 2008 June 08, 10:12 pm
Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

You may find it difficult to do both RTK and a Japanese Class that teaches kanji. Kudos that your class is teaching kanji though. If you're able to keep the two seperate and succeed, definately keep at it. For your class, learn the On and Kun if it's required. For RTK, do not even worry about it. You're going for recognition and writing when presented the keyword.

Reply #5 - 2008 June 09, 3:20 am
emily00 Member
From: Ohio Registered: 2007-12-05 Posts: 21

Thanks for the helpful answers everyone, and don't worry Nukemarine my Japanese class isn't really too hard and I'm just about to start the 4th quarter of it, which is the last here, and probably won't take it anywhere else. It hasn't really messed me up with trying to learn through 2+ sources but I'm not going too hardcore quite yet like the people who do a hundred kanji a week or a day. tongue

Reply #6 - 2008 June 09, 10:27 am
mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

100 kanji a week is not hardcore with heisig.
100 kanji a week with readings and vocabulary would be really hardcore, tought.
100 a day is not advisable.

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