Zarxrax
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From: North Carolina
Registered: 2008-03-24
Posts: 949
It can often take me about 2 hours to get all my cards reviewed each day, and it really burns me out. Today I was REALLY not wanting to do my reviews, but i decided to rush through them as fast as I could. To my surprise, I finished about a hundred cards in about 20 minutes, and my retention rate was about 75%-80% which isn't terribly bad for me.
What do you think of rushing through the reviews? Am I just setting myself up for failure the next time these cards come up, because I didn't thoroughly recall them?
danieldesu
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From: Raleigh
Registered: 2007-07-07
Posts: 247
If you were able to write the kanji, isn't that thorough enough? (Do you write out every kanji?) I am actually going through RTK a second time, and I have found that my reviews are going a lot faster than they used to. I do about 60-70 kanji in about 5-10 minutes. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
Edit: I should say that I don't bother trying to relearn the ones I fail on the spot (unless it was a 'oh, duh!' type moment), I save that for later. It definitely keeps me from burning out and I can devote more energy to problem kanji at a later time.
Last edited by danieldesu (2008 June 08, 5:31 pm)
Zarxrax
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From: North Carolina
Registered: 2008-03-24
Posts: 949
Well i usually stare at the keyword for a second and think about whether I know the kanji, sometimes it takes me a little while to remember it. Then I write it out and check to make sure I wrote it properly.
Today it was more like, see the keyword and then immediately "I know it, im not writing it, WHABAM! LETS GO!" or "I dont know, *click show* ok i remember, *fail* GO GO GO"
Last edited by Zarxrax (2008 June 08, 5:59 pm)
lazar
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From: Canada
Registered: 2007-12-06
Posts: 103
2 HOURS?!?! woww man, how does it get so long ??
I'm only around frame 400, and my reviews are about 50 per day, and I just write each kanji down once to make sure I know it 100%, and it takes 10 mins max... but yeah why 3 hours? do you study the ones you could not recall in between your review??
suffah wrote:
Are you talking about 100 RtK cards in 20 minutes? 5 per minute seems reasonable, but a tad bit on the fast side.
I did 120 RtK cards today (day and a half's worth) and 80 sentence cards. I write out every Kanji. The RtK cards were pretty quick. The sentences take forever.
Wow man... how much time do you devote to learning those 120, or the 80 a day you normally learn? And what exactly do you do? think of story > write down the kanji several times > move on?
Last edited by lazar (2008 June 08, 8:35 pm)
QuackingShoe
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From: USA
Registered: 2008-04-19
Posts: 721
I rush through or take it slow depending on my mood and my time constraints. I think it's better to take it slow because the time spent thinking about a kanji and finally bringing it out yourself is better for your long-term memory than giving up and seeing it again (as far as I'm aware). I also, obviously, get a higher score in these cases, but that's not really here or there aside from motivational aspects.
I believe I've read that things stuck deepest into your long term memory are actually HARDER to pull out on command, also, so...
Last edited by QuackingShoe (2008 June 08, 9:43 pm)
rich_f
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From: north carolina
Registered: 2007-07-12
Posts: 1708
My reviews never take too long. Review the fail pile (it's usually under 10), review the rest, (50-70 or so a day) and then I'm done in ~20-30 minutes.
Reviewing the fail pile is easy for me-- I just bring up the fail list, and try to write out the kanji I failed. If I do, I mark it "learned," if I don't, it stays in the pile another day. I only bother with fixing stories if I have a lot of problems with a character.
Regular reviews are the same. See the keyword, write the kanji, if I don't get it, I write it out, write out the keyword underneath it, draw a big box around it, curse under my breath for forgetting such an EASY one, then move on to the next one. I don't give myself more than about a minute or so to remember it. If I don't remember it, it's not a big deal. (Okay, it irritates me, but that's more incentive to remember next time.)
SineAzaroth
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From: Japan and California
Registered: 2008-06-17
Posts: 1
I draw kanji out using my fingers as its gives me an actual feel for the word when I'm too lazy to pull out the pen and pad (it reminds me of the days where I write kanji a few dozen times to get it in my short term memory). Kanji usually happen 4 different ways, 2 successful, 2 fail...
1. either its immediate keyword associate sometimes with keywords from stories as secondary words that trail along, like remembering the mnemonic after having the answer,
2.grasping for those mnemonic keywords and recreating the story to get the word which can take a few seconds to a minute
3. drawing a blank, one one primary, or the entire keyword
4. or mismatching a keyword with another kanji
in told, i just did 30 in about 5 minutes, 100 takes about 20?
Heres a question: How long do you wait between reviews?