Allow comments on an individual's story.

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Reply #1 - 2008 May 06, 9:56 pm
jackhuddleston Member
From: US Registered: 2008-04-13 Posts: 11

That way we can work together in crafting the best story possible and offer feedback to people on whether their story worked or not.

Last edited by jackhuddleston (2008 May 08, 2:15 pm)

Reply #2 - 2008 May 07, 9:11 am
billyclyde Member
Registered: 2007-05-21 Posts: 192

Overkill?  Not every story works for everyone.

Reply #3 - 2008 May 07, 9:32 am
rich_f Member
From: north carolina Registered: 2007-07-12 Posts: 1708

The thing is, some of my stories only work for me. I've published a few that others use, but to be honest, even those don't always work for me.

What's perfect for one person's style of learning may be terrible for another.

Let alone the debates over whom to use for "Person." There are those of us who use Mr.T, and others who use a lot of different people. Same goes for "Thread" and "Fingers." Some of us use personification of tougher primitives as a quick and dirty tool, and others don't like the practice. Personally, I'm all about quick and dirty, so long as it works.

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Reply #4 - 2008 May 07, 10:01 am
MethodGT Member
From: Utah Registered: 2008-01-28 Posts: 78

I like the idea.  There are many times when I see someone's story, and there are just a couple errors in spelling or grammar or logic or whatever.  Just yesterday I saw that in the top story for something that I no longer remember, the word 'threw' was spelled 'through'.  I would love it if a little text box would pop up when I report the story, so I can say why I'm reporting it.  Then when the story is fixed or defended, the author can get rid of my report, so the red number doesn't always hang around.

I'm not sure if what I'm saying is exactly like what Jack is saying.  It kind of seems like what he wants is to be able to have an expandable comments table for every story.  I like that idea too, just not as much as the individual, private comments idea.

Reply #5 - 2008 May 07, 11:22 am
Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

I'm in the overkill column on this one. As said, what works for one will not work for another. You should tailor a good story to fit your needs. Although an explanation for why a story was reported might be nice. Not overly needed atm as reported stories are not negatively treated yet.

Reply #6 - 2008 May 07, 12:46 pm
Django Member
Registered: 2007-08-30 Posts: 29

Overkill or not, it would be nice to have the option to explain why you are reporting a story, and conversely to know why one of your own stories has been reported.

Reply #7 - 2008 May 09, 3:02 am
cangy Member
From: 平安京 Registered: 2006-12-13 Posts: 372 Website

MethodGT wrote:

I like the idea.  There are many times when I see someone's story, and there are just a couple errors in spelling or grammar or logic or whatever.  Just yesterday I saw that in the top story for something that I no longer remember, the word 'threw' was spelled 'through'.  I would love it if a little text box would pop up when I report the story, so I can say why I'm reporting it.  Then when the story is fixed or defended, the author can get rid of my report, so the red number doesn't always hang around.

Yeah it's definiately needed given the way reports are used now, plus your idea deals with the current problem of reports hanging around forever after stories are modified to deal with the issues (it recently occurred to me that reports and votes could decay over time, which would also help with that).  Comments have been suggested before though, so I guess that means frabrice isn't interested...

Reply #8 - 2008 May 09, 9:17 am
Shibo Member
From: South Dakota, USA Registered: 2008-01-19 Posts: 132

I don't like the idea of comments attached to stories. I have a hard enough time as it is reading through all the stories and choosing one when I have issues. I know for a fact that I'd obsessively read comments on everyone's stories, when I saw them. I'd rather not have another excuse to procrastinate. wink An option to private message the person who wrote the stories could be nice to get them to fix typos and all, but I suspect it could also be annoying if/when the prudes realize that they can send nastygrams to the people who help themselves remember their stories with lewd imagery. I have quite a few non-PG stories and I know I don't want to hear from those who don't like them.

Last edited by Shibo (2008 May 09, 9:17 am)

Reply #9 - 2008 May 09, 1:09 pm
akrodha Member
From: Miami, FL Registered: 2006-08-30 Posts: 98 Website

These forums already take care of that aspect to a certain extent, especially the "Stories requests" section.

http://forum.koohii.com/viewforum.php?id=2

Reply #10 - 2008 May 09, 3:42 pm
stehr Member
From: california Registered: 2007-09-25 Posts: 281

Shibo wrote:

I don't like the idea of comments attached to stories. I have a hard enough time as it is reading through all the stories and choosing one when I have issues. I know for a fact that I'd obsessively read comments on everyone's stories, when I saw them. I'd rather not have another excuse to procrastinate.

Ditto.  I don't think there's any real need for commentary. Now that Fabrice allowed users to easily check stars/reports under "all my stories", everyone should have a good idea of why their stories were starred/reported.  Personally, I have edited all of my reported stories to make them either more palatable or more relevant/understandable.  My old "reports" have not gone away, but I haven't gotten any new ones.  I think that through re-reading old stories that have been reported or starred, one can get a pretty good idea of why it was "reported/starred", without a need for time-consuming commentaries.

Concerning crafting "the best story possible", I think that this is already happening naturally, as users rewrite other's stories and make them better. I've done this myself a few times (see my story for keyword "Magnet" 1390).

Reply #11 - 2008 June 06, 1:21 am
cangy Member
From: 平安京 Registered: 2006-12-13 Posts: 372 Website

akrodha wrote:

These forums already take care of that aspect to a certain extent, especially the "Stories requests" section.

http://forum.koohii.com/viewforum.php?id=2

I think story requests are largely unrelated to comments on existing stories.

If there was a link from the story page to the forum when there is a thread on that kanji, or likewise for individual stories, then that would be useful, but having to manually search the forums for each story/kanji isn't practical...

stehr wrote:

Ditto.  I don't think there's any real need for commentary. Now that Fabrice allowed users to easily check stars/reports under "all my stories", everyone should have a good idea of why their stories were starred/reported.

It isn't always possible for someone to work out why their story was reported as they are reported for so many different reasons.  Also, it doesn't help at all for what I suspect is the majority of cases, where the user doesn't frequently go back and look for new reported stories.

Reply #12 - 2008 June 06, 9:16 am
Shibo Member
From: South Dakota, USA Registered: 2008-01-19 Posts: 132

I wish reports went through some kind of filter, but that would probably take too long. I hate seeing reports that exist because someone is offended by a comment about women, or the palestinians and israelis, or something stupid. I want to see a report because someone is using the wrong primitive, or misusing the keyword. And when I say misusing, I mean *by accident*. It's annoying when someone specifically states that he knows it's not the proper use, but it helps his memory, and he *still gets reported*. Gah, annoying. I think that if reports somehow were filtered by someone, then there would be less clamor for a comment section.

Reply #13 - 2008 July 04, 4:26 am
liosama Member
From: sydney Registered: 2008-03-02 Posts: 896

Shibo wrote:

I want to see a report because someone is using the wrong primitive, or misusing the keyword.

That's when i report people smile I initially thought thats what the PURPOSE of reporting was, till i realized it was due to offending people. i got 4 reports on my story for mediocre ;D (1 star though xD)

Reply #14 - 2008 July 06, 3:32 pm
crystalcastlecreature Banned
From: Mission Hills, CA, USA Registered: 2008-05-29 Posts: 7

I highly agree! WE should be allowed a way to comment people's stories. To make the comments less intrusive, there should be a plus sign next to the story box IF people have commented. To view those comments simply click the plus sign and from under appear the comments. This solution gets rid of the problem of stories and comments getting mixed up together.

smile

Reply #15 - 2008 July 06, 11:01 pm
sfekas Member
From: Seattle Registered: 2008-06-14 Posts: 40

Comments could be nice, but I'd settle for a second "report" option.  That way we could report offensive stuff separately from stories that use the wrong meaning of an ambiguous keyword.

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