漫 and 慢

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romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

慢 frame 829
漫 frame 830

I am really having a hard time with these kanji's, both in meaning and in story. First, does anyone know what these kanji really mean?

For example, 慢 is used in:

自慢 【じまん】 (n,vs,adj-no) pride; boast; (P) 我慢 【がまん】 (n,vs) patience; endurance; perseverance; tolerance; self-control; self-denial; (P)  怠慢 【たいまん】 (adj-na,n) negligence; procrastination; carelessness; (P) 慢性 【まんせい】 (n,adj-no) chronicity; chronic; (P)  慢性的 【まんせいてき】 (adj-na) chronic; (P)

and 漫 is used in 漫画 【まんが】 (n) comic; cartoon; (P) 散漫 【さんまん】 (adj-na,n) vague; desultory; distracted; loose; half-hearted; diffuse; (P)

I guess "loose" is a decent keyword for 漫, but I am not sure about "ridicule" for 慢.

Can anyone shed some light on these kanji?

Ramchip Member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-09-22 Posts: 108

Somehow, I find it very japanese-ish to use "self ridicule" for boasting...

romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

yeah i thought of that... but i don't know if i am satisfied.

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Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

Halpern's New Japanese-English character dictionary defines them as follows:

829 慢 (Halpern 686): arrogant, sluggish
830 漫 (Halpern 700): rambling, comic

This dictionary, like Heisig, tries to define each kanji with a word or short phrase in English. It differs from Heisig in that (1) The same English word may be used more than once. (2) When a kanji has two or more main meanings they may both (all) be given, as in the examples above. (3) The meanings are more accurate.

Last edited by Katsuo (2008 February 27, 2:10 am)

romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

Interesting Katsuo. I think I am liking the definition of "arrogant." as well as "rambling."

Is there any site online that can give definitions like that that anyone knows of? Also, is that kanji book as big as it looks?

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