Does anyone wanna have a race?

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Reply #1 - August 29, 11:20 pm
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

I'm on Kanji #225 and thought it'd be fun to race someone near that number to the end. The loser has to set his profile pic to something really embarrassing (of the winners choice). But how could we prevent cheating?

Reply #2 - August 30, 10:48 am
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

I take your bet. I'm further along then you so we can not have stakes if you don't want - I just wanna have some companionship on this incredibly time consuming journey.

I don't measure frames anymore - I just use anki and look at my % done (100 - %unseen). I'm currently at 22% done. It look like you're at about 10% done.

The way I'm doing it is by setting my # of reviews each day to 0. In the morning, in addition to my normal vocab and grammer reviews, I add 22 new rtk cards (1% of the 2,200 total). Thruout the day I add a bunch more.  I've been doing this for a few days now.

I figure when I'm done I'll start doing reviews again, decide whether I want to write them out, and generally the best way to incorporate what I've learned into my studies.

Reply #3 - August 30, 12:34 pm
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

Update, I just finished my morning 22 (1%). I'm now up to 23%. My next big milestone will be 25% (1 out of every 4 常用漢字！）. At this rate I will hit it no later than the end of the 3 day weekend.

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Reply #4 - August 30, 3:08 pm
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

The stakes are still on, I only have to work harder now and believe me I don't plan on losing. 11%(6th edition) at the moment. Hopefully I can get to 15% before school starts on the 2nd. Do you have school?

Reply #5 - August 30, 4:10 pm
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

KANJI CHALLENGE.  IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26hb7_MBZ0w

I'm a worker, so I don't have school. That gives you an edge, because I have to be somewhere all the time during the week and also come home tired every night. 

But I'm still gonna fight my best!

Reply #6 - August 30, 8:18 pm
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

Murtada,

I just learned that the kanji tell us that beauty is a large sheep. That's another way of saying that I hit 25%.

Thanks for the challenge - it's definitely helping me to get thru this faster.

I wish that there was a way for me to post the screenshot I just took. But I don't see a way to do that.

Reply #7 - August 30, 9:53 pm
Tzadeck Member
From: Kinki Registered: 2009-02-21 Posts: 2484

ariariari wrote:

The way I'm doing it is by setting my # of reviews each day to 0. In the morning, in addition to my normal vocab and grammer reviews, I add 22 new rtk cards (1% of the 2,200 total). Thruout the day I add a bunch more.  I've been doing this for a few days now.

I figure when I'm done I'll start doing reviews again, decide whether I want to write them out, and generally the best way to incorporate what I've learned into my studies.

Wait, you mean you're not doing any RTK reviews at all until you've done all the kanji once?  If that's what you're saying, why did you decide that?  It sounds like a completely awful idea to me.

Reply #8 - August 30, 11:06 pm
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

12.5%.
The stories on this site REALLY stick the kanji in my head, other than telling me about the primitives and radicals the book seems completely useless...

Reply #9 - August 31, 2:11 am
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

I'm going to squeeze in 25 more kanji just to get to 300. After that I'm gonna have to stop for two days because I have to do  a summer packet that i haven't even looked at so you can take it easy until the 2nd.

Reply #10 - August 31, 10:01 pm
Unwritten_Oracle New member
Registered: 2014-08-31 Posts: 2

I have just started learning kanji recently; I'm only about 1% through, but if its alright with you, I think a race would keep me focused and dedicated, so I'd love to participate as well.

Last edited by Unwritten_Oracle (August 31, 10:02 pm)

Reply #11 - August 31, 10:20 pm
yogert909 Member
From: Los Angeles, Ca Registered: 2013-05-03 Posts: 270 Website

Tzadeck wrote:

Wait, you mean you're not doing any RTK reviews at all until you've done all the kanji once?  If that's what you're saying, why did you decide that?  It sounds like a completely awful idea to me.

Seconded.  You're going to have to start out back at frame #1 when you're done because you'll forget everything.

Reply #12 - September 01, 11:37 am
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

yogert909 wrote:

Tzadeck wrote:

Wait, you mean you're not doing any RTK reviews at all until you've done all the kanji once?  If that's what you're saying, why did you decide that?  It sounds like a completely awful idea to me.

Seconded.  You're going to have to start out back at frame #1 when you're done because you'll forget everything.

Thanks for the feedback guys.  I wish you had been a bit softer in your feedback, but I agree with your point.  In fact, the day that I posted that I actually wound up doing a bunch of reviews anyway, as I did the next day. My post was made when I was experimenting with different levers in Anki to see what worked best for me.

Murtada, I am currently at 27% (5% mature, 22% new). I have reduced my new cards per day to 3 (about 1% a week), and am focusing much more on learning my existing cards very well.

Looking at this post: http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=12748 it looks like my desire to get thru the book as quickly possible was partly fueled by what rich_f calls falling into the "meta game" trap.  I think that racing thru the book as quickly as possible works well for some people, but given my situation I think that it is not the best system for me. I should probably take a bit of a hiatus from the site, step outside the meta-game, and just focus on reaching my goals in a way that I know works well for me.

Reply #13 - September 01, 11:38 am
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

Unwritten_Oracle wrote:

I have just started learning kanji recently; I'm only about 1% through, but if its alright with you, I think a race would keep me focused and dedicated, so I'd love to participate as well.

Absolutely! It's just a way to make a hard project fun.

Reply #14 - September 02, 5:10 am
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

Just now finished my summer work, somehow i compressed a summer's worth of work into 1 day. Procrastination at it's finest.

15% down, 75% to go.

@Unwritten_Oracle
Of course, the more the better. If i were you i'd use the sites stories, they are MUCH more memorable.

Reply #15 - September 02, 5:14 am
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

ariariari wrote:

Murtada, I am currently at 27% (5% mature, 22% new). I have reduced my new cards per day to 3 (about 1% a week), and am focusing much more on learning my existing cards very well.

Tell me that's a typo, 1% a WEEK? There is no way you're gonna win at that pace. Not that i'm against it or anything lol ....

Reply #16 - September 02, 1:21 pm
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

murtada wrote:

ariariari wrote:

Murtada, I am currently at 27% (5% mature, 22% new). I have reduced my new cards per day to 3 (about 1% a week), and am focusing much more on learning my existing cards very well.

Tell me that's a typo, 1% a WEEK? There is no way you're gonna win at that pace. Not that i'm against it or anything lol ....

No typo.  IDK Murtada, it looks like you've got a loooooooooooooong way to catch up.  I'm at 27% and you're still at 12.5%.  I think I see you in my rear view mirror. Oh wait, no, just my eyes playing tricks on me.  I still can't see you! tongue

In all seriousness, we've all gotta decide on what trade offs we want to make between time studying kanji per day, new cards and reviewing. Right now I want to emphasize reviewing.

Reply #17 - September 03, 7:45 pm
Unwritten_Oracle New member
Registered: 2014-08-31 Posts: 2

murtada wrote:

Of course, the more the better. If i were you i'd use the sites stories, they are MUCH more memorable.

Well, thanks for the advice, currently I'm trying to remember 7 kanji a day, but I can't study every day because of school and work, so I'm just hoping for 21 a week to start out.  And then, with grammar and vocabulary, I have a long road ahead of me.

Reply #18 - September 08, 12:16 am
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

18% in and i'm not sleeping until i hit 20%

Ariariari, how does it feel knowing that defeat is inevitable?

Last edited by murtada (September 08, 12:17 am)

Reply #19 - September 08, 12:24 am
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

murtada wrote:

Just now finished my summer work, somehow i compressed a summer's worth of work into 1 day. Procrastination at it's finest.

15% down, 75% to go.

@Unwritten_Oracle
Of course, the more the better. If i were you i'd use the sites stories, they are MUCH more memorable.

15% down 75% to go? I guess doing a summers worth of work in a day does take a toll on your noggin, let's hope the damage isn't permanent smile

Ariariari, you mentioned that you do other Anki decks in addition to RTK. Would you kindly tell me the names of these two decks(or any others)?

Reply #20 - September 08, 4:47 am
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

20%, i can now recognize 1 out of 5 kanji smile

Reply #21 - September 08, 9:42 am
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

murtada wrote:

Ariariari, you mentioned that you do other Anki decks in addition to RTK. Would you kindly tell me the names of these two decks(or any others)?

Sure, the big one I do every morning - the one that has the most cards in it - is my vocab deck.  It has 3 sub-decks:
  -"Minna No Nihongo 1 Vocabulary Complete": https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/520478796. That's the first book I completed when I lived in Japan and studied the language for the first time.
  -"genki 2 vocab": I'm creating this deck as I go thru the book in my class.
  -"out of class vocab", which I have been creating myself, and is exactly what it sounds like smile

Besides the vocabulary deck and RtK, I have 2 others:
  -"Japanese Verb Conjugations, Dictionary of Basic Jap. Grammar": https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1567166625.  This has been great practice for me, though I am embarassed that I make any mistakes with this material at all!
  -rtk_primitives_nevdelap: a deck on RtK primitives.

Reply #22 - September 16, 6:23 am
murtada Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2014-06-12 Posts: 67

25% down 75% to go!

Reply #23 - October 01, 2:23 pm
ariariari Member
Registered: 2014-07-29 Posts: 68

30%.

Reply #24 - October 01, 7:13 pm
john555 Member
Registered: 2014-03-18 Posts: 295

Here's a suggeston from someone (me smile) who finished RTK1:  try doing it for a while without using this Anki thing.  See if maybe you find it easier going.  I'd be curious to know what you think.  And also make sure that as you review the kanji you write them out by hand with pen/pencil and paper.  The act of writing helps fix them in the memory.

Reply #25 - October 02, 5:02 am
aldebrn Member
From: Maryland, USA Registered: 2014-07-10 Posts: 121 Website

john555 wrote:

Here's a suggeston from someone (me smile) who finished RTK1:  try doing it for a while without using this Anki thing.

Explain. Do you mean make paper flashcards as you pass through the book and review all flashcards periodically? Do you mean don't review (no Anki, no paper flashcards), at all or until you've learned another big chunk (~20?)? I feel like an idiot for entwining "RTK" with "Anki/Koohii/Memrise/online tool" for so long that I don't understand how to do RTK by itself, despite hating all the extra baggage of software.

Last edited by aldebrn (October 02, 5:24 am)