Is the stroke order for "sickness" wrong in RTK v.3?

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Reply #1 - 2008 February 21, 7:21 pm
romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

According to RTK v.3, in the "sickness" radical, the "ice" radical is written bottom slashing stroke first then top dot last. Isn't it written like ン？With the top part first, and bottom slash last? Sorry this is confusing, but let me know if you do not understand my question.

Reply #2 - 2008 February 21, 8:04 pm
JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

Yes, the book is incorrect.  I think that's in the errata somewhere.

Reply #3 - 2008 February 21, 8:05 pm
rtkrtk Member
From: Japan Registered: 2007-10-16 Posts: 27

Here's the stroke order according to Jim Breen's WWWJDIC using Jack Halpern's data: http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi- … 277_%C9%C2

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Reply #4 - 2008 February 21, 11:54 pm
romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

Yeah, just as I thought...

rtkrtk, how can u look up stroke orders on breen's site?

Reply #5 - 2008 February 22, 1:19 am
samusam Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-01-07 Posts: 22

Just go to Kanji Lookup, look up a kanji, and then click "SOD" to get the stroke order diagram (I assume that's what it stands for).

Reply #6 - 2008 February 29, 2:06 pm
romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

Oh wait, i just realized, my copy is the fourth edition. so i guess its wrong in 4th. Can anyone confirm if its ok in 3rd?. sorry for the confusion.

Reply #7 - 2008 February 29, 3:34 pm
Codexus Member
From: Switzerland Registered: 2007-11-27 Posts: 721

There are lots of errors with stroke order RtK 4th edition.

My favorite site to check the correct stroke order is: http://www.csus.edu/fl/japanese/gahoh/Japanese.html

There are quicktime movies for each kanji so that you can see where a stroke starts. Unfortunately there is no simple search function on that site so you have to use the radicals and it's slower than other sites.

WWWJDIC or http://kakijun.main.jp/ allow you to search a character quickly but they don't show where the strokes start. In fact that can be very misleading. When checking kanji stroke order on those sites, my brain started to play tricks on me. I thought I saw a motion in the animation, but that was just an illusion. Once I checked everything on the site with quicktime movies I realized I was making a few mistakes because of that.

Reply #8 - 2008 March 01, 4:56 pm
OCCASVS New member
From: Italy Registered: 2007-05-30 Posts: 3

Search Kanji on this site:
http://yamasa.cc/members/ocjs/kanjidic. … 3?OpenForm
and here's a list of every RTKI Kanji:
http://ziggr.com/heisig/

I always keep a tab open on that search page to double check the stroke order of some Kanji.

Last edited by OCCASVS (2008 March 01, 4:58 pm)

Reply #9 - 2008 March 03, 3:59 pm
Codexus Member
From: Switzerland Registered: 2007-11-27 Posts: 721

Great site, I've been searching for a site like that for months!

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