vebaev wrote:

I'm a bit confused about the making -te form:

If -te form is easy making from past tense, which everywhere is shown to be made from dictionary form. So learning past tense you actually learning also -te form easy (ta-->te)

SO....why all the -te form "songs" and lots of resources learning te- form from MASU form?!?!?!?

It just comes from differences in the order that textbooks introduce things.  Some textbooks start out by doing everything in desu/masu form because they think polite Japanese should be learnt first, and sometimes -te form is introduced before simple past tense (ta).  So, if you're learning in that order, it's useful to be able to go from masu form to te form.

yudantaiteki wrote:

Can you give an example of a song or resource that does -te form from MASU?

The only time I ever heard any songs to remember verb conjugations was from a guy I worked with for a year.  He didn't start learning Japanese until he came to Japan, so he was new to everything and his Japanese tutor suggested a few little songs to help remember.  I'm pretty sure there was one that went from masu to te form, and I assume it was because of the order he was using.  But, on second thought, I'm pretty sure the way he was learning all verb forms based on their masu form, rather than their dictionary form.  So it might not actually have been that he hadn't learned simple past yet.

Thanks,

I started with JtMW, but it seems to me quite randomly, a lot of examples with no emphasis on the rules and most frequent ones, to me not well structured (as I have visual memory not enough tables with rules) so now I'm going to Tae Kim which structure I like more ; more to the point like pure grammar( I hope I'm not doing the wrong thing)

Last edited by vebaev (2013 December 29, 9:55 am)

Tables and related stuff:
http://users.bestweb.net/%7Esiom/martia … JCtexts.7z

Now would be an excellent time to demonstrate the -te form of masu:　新年明けましておめでとうございます！