Japanese Kindle Store no longer accepts overseas customers...

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legendmaxx Member
From: Cleveland Registered: 2011-06-04 Posts: 15

...and I am not happy about it.  Why doesn't Japan want to accept my money?  I used to have a temporary Japanese proxy to get around region blocks like this, but just today I discovered it no longer works and don't know of another way to get a temporary Japanese proxy to bypass their stupid system.  If anyone has another method, I would love to know about it.  I only want to buy a product... what do I have to do to get books around here? (at least to tide me over until I move to Japan)

Last edited by legendmaxx (2013 October 28, 9:42 pm)

RawToast お巡りさん
From: UK Registered: 2012-09-03 Posts: 431 Website

I can't try at the moment (at work) but have a try using VPN Gate:

http://www.vpngate.net/en/

undead_saif Member
From: Mother Earth Registered: 2009-01-28 Posts: 635

RawToast wrote:

I can't try at the moment (at work) but have a try using VPN Gate:

http://www.vpngate.net/en/

I used it to access the Japanese Play Store and it worked! Thanks!

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AkiKazachan Member
From: Georgia Registered: 2009-03-25 Posts: 43

This might be a bit OT, but why don't they want people overseas buying their stuff? Seems like the us-them dichotomy taken to a whole new extreme....

Though what do I know about economics? Nothing XP

RawToast お巡りさん
From: UK Registered: 2012-09-03 Posts: 431 Website

AkiKazachan wrote:

This might be a bit OT, but why don't they want people overseas buying their stuff? Seems like the us-them dichotomy taken to a whole new extreme..

It's most likely due to licensing concerns, they probably only have the rights to sell certain ebooks within Japan.

rahsoul Member
Registered: 2012-02-29 Posts: 63

Strange, I purchased something today outside of a VPN no problems.

legendmaxx Member
From: Cleveland Registered: 2011-06-04 Posts: 15

undead_saif wrote:

RawToast wrote:

I can't try at the moment (at work) but have a try using VPN Gate:

http://www.vpngate.net/en/

I used it to access the Japanese Play Store and it worked! Thanks!

Thank you so much for this!  I got it to work right away (unlike just about everything else) and now back to my 小説.

Crispy Member
From: UK Registered: 2012-05-08 Posts: 126

AkiKazachan wrote:

This might be a bit OT, but why don't they want people overseas buying their stuff? Seems like the us-them dichotomy taken to a whole new extreme....

Though what do I know about economics? Nothing XP

For the same reason that after 12 months of buying 7-11 they almost drove it to bankruptcy, and the same reason their public debt is over 200% their GDP--Sometimes Japan does things the way Japan wants to do things, regardless if it makes sense or money.

patriconia Member
From: 日本 Registered: 2009-06-07 Posts: 59

Crispy wrote:

AkiKazachan wrote:

This might be a bit OT, but why don't they want people overseas buying their stuff? Seems like the us-them dichotomy taken to a whole new extreme....

Though what do I know about economics? Nothing XP

For the same reason that after 12 months of buying 7-11 they almost drove it to bankruptcy, and the same reason their public debt is over 200% their GDP--Sometimes Japan does things the way Japan wants to do things, regardless if it makes sense or money.

It's not an issue with Japan specifically. In Japan, you can't use US Hulu, Netflix Streaming, or Pandora, and N. America Region 1 DVDs won't play in Japanese Region 2 DVD players, and vice versa. It's why there's different iTunes stores based on the country you live in. Media companies can be very territorial with their licensing and distribution rights. This happens everywhere.

Reply #10 - 2013 October 30, 2:11 pm
Woodgar Member
From: England Registered: 2012-01-30 Posts: 33

From a purely consumer point of view, the whole situation is crazy.

Take Sony's PlayStation Network for example. I live in the UK and can access the UK PSN without issues and Sony are quite happy to take my money. However, they flatly refuse to take my money if I try to buy something from the American or Japanese PSNs. To buy from the American or Japanese stores I have to create a fake account with a fake address, use my credit card to purchase PSN top-up cards from 3rd party vendors on the internet and then use those to get PSN store credit.

We live in a digitally connected world, but marketing people still insist on dividing up the planet like it's 1859.

Reply #11 - 2013 October 30, 9:19 pm
six8ten Member
Registered: 2011-02-26 Posts: 106

patriconia wrote:

It's not an issue with Japan specifically. In Japan, you can't use US Hulu, Netflix Streaming, or Pandora, and N. America Region 1 DVDs won't play in Japanese Region 2 DVD players, and vice versa. It's why there's different iTunes stores based on the country you live in. Media companies can be very territorial with their licensing and distribution rights. This happens everywhere.

To expand on this, sometimes different companies have contracts with the original media production company to distribute products, items, etc in different regions. This made more sense back in the day (not that long ago, really) before the prevalence of digital distribution of content.

Say, for instance, a book publisher (or record company, or movie company, etc) handled its own distribution within the US/Canada. They would get approached by a publisher or distributor from somewhere in Europe who wanted to sell their book (or they would seek out a distributor) and already had the infrastructure in Europe to distribute: storage buildings, transportation, shipping, etc. The publisher, 20 years later, starts producing e-books (or DVDs or whatever), still has active contracts with these other companies to distribute in different regions. Contractually, the original producer has to honor or protect the distribution rights of their partner company, with which they may now have a historically mutually beneficial business arrangement.

Taxes on goods/sales of content also has an influence. Multi-national companies will often separate things by region (Sony US vs Sony JP, for instance) to minimize charges, taxes, fees, etc.

Distribution of digital content is still in a transition phase, and likely will be for some time, before the wrinkles we see on the consumer end will be worked out.

Reply #12 - 2013 October 31, 4:37 am
RawToast お巡りさん
From: UK Registered: 2012-09-03 Posts: 431 Website

Oh, for anyone using VPN Gate the details of the VPN will change every few days so you'll need to set it up again smile

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