favorite stories vs. newest & updated stories

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triangleman42 Member
From: Portland Registered: 2007-10-10 Posts: 11

Is there an option somewhere that I can't find which would allow me to NOT see the "newest and updated stories" when in the study mode?  I'm much more interested in the Favorite stories but sometimes there are so many "newest and updated" that they push the Favorite ones way down the page.

amthomas Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-06-22 Posts: 104

seconded!

triangleman42 Member
From: Portland Registered: 2007-10-10 Posts: 11

I think this might be in the wrong forum, perhaps it belongs in "Feedback"...

Anyway, I poked around at the Zen Review greasemonkey script and used it to write my own script that completely removes the newest & updated stories section.

I'll post it online in a bit, gotta do some actual work while I'm at work. smile

-Josh

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Transtic Member
Registered: 2007-07-29 Posts: 201

I think  that hiding stories that haven't had a chance to be rated is absolutely pointless. That way a lot of good stories will get less stars just because of lazy people that prefer old stories rather than new ones, even if they may be better.

Come on people, nobody will die because of scrolling down a bit once in a while. IMHO you are just spoiling the system.

triangleman42 Member
From: Portland Registered: 2007-10-10 Posts: 11

Transtic, you definitely have a point.  However for my own purposes I prefer to only look at the highest rated stories so I will be using this greasemonkey script.

To each their own.

Last edited by triangleman42 (2008 January 30, 5:17 pm)

ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

I'm testing out the idea, as it was also asked by email a while ago. However I wouldn't want to hide newest stories when the page loads, that would defeat the purpose of having an area that shows the new propositions.

triangleman42 Member
From: Portland Registered: 2007-10-10 Posts: 11

What if you setup the layout so that new/updated stories are in a separate area to the right of the list of favorites?  That way both can be easily seen without scrolling.

ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

It's going to be hard to cram two columns of stories there no? You could do, but I don't think it would be very readable.

Anyway, check out the site news. You might still want to use your Greasemonkey script if you want to hide the stories permanently.

PS: do you use Safari? I noticed the Safari beta on Windows XP, uses a smaller scrolling value for the mousewheel which is annoying... haven't found a way to change it in the Perferences.

woelpad Member
From: Chiba Registered: 2006-11-07 Posts: 425

What I would like to see is an extra section, instead of a section less. The "My favorite stories" section which would list all the stories that I myself starred. Naturally it would go at the top. This has the double benefit of avoiding to copy them into your box, freeing that up for your personal notes or stories, and giving greater incentive to actually star stories. This runs counter perhaps to the well-meant advice to condense your stories, but that hasn't stopped many (hence the success of the Story with Line Breaks script).

Alas, there's no indication on the study page of which stories where starred by the user, so that leaves Greasemonkey mostly out of the loop.

Reply #10 - 2008 January 31, 2:24 pm
ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

woelpad wrote:

This has the double benefit of avoiding to copy them into your box, freeing that up for your personal notes or stories

In practice you should copy the story because the author can edit his at any time. (The fact that the stars do not track the story updates is another problem, but not directly related to your suggestion.) I don't see the benefit of adding another tab there unless you'd star more than one story on most pages, and even then: you're supposed to use only one story for remembering purposes, so why do you want to filter the stories more by showing only a subset of your own voting?

If it's about knowing what stories you starred or which stories of you were starred, this should go in a list somewhere, but not in the context of a particular kanji.

I tried displaying the user's own votes but I didn't like the distinction it made, I had to use a "washed out" star to indicate unvoted and another bright one for the user's own votes, and I didn't like the extra distinction back then, I'll try again. It's happened to me to vote a story twice and realize I just un-voted it but this seemed a minor problem..

Reply #11 - 2008 January 31, 9:06 pm
Danieru Member
From: Saskatoon/Fukui-ken Registered: 2007-10-26 Posts: 21

Wow, I had no idea that stars don't track story updates, or that a 'copied' story will follow the updates of the author.  Usually I just hit 'copy' to a story that I like, but then I often change a few words or add something to it (I'm too lazy to type it out on my own).
 
   As for my two cents, I definitely think new stories should be shown.  I mean, all stories - including the ones with the most stars - started out as a new story once, right?  Maybe somebody has come up with a brilliant mnemonic or something, and you might miss out because you are ignoring the recently composed ones.

ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

Danieru wrote:

or that a 'copied' story will follow the updates of the author

No, that's the point : if you copy a story to your "edit" space, you don't have to worry about the author changing his after some time.

If you copy a story you shouldn't share it straight away since that would create a duplicate, most people don't so this isn't an issue. Sometimes members republish a modified version of someone else's story where they added or modified elements to make it work better in one way or another, which is alright.

munia Member
From: Spain Registered: 2005-11-08 Posts: 19 Website

This is probably a stupid question, but can we copy Heisig's stories as long as we don't share them, or would that be infringement of copyright?

Last edited by munia (2008 February 02, 2:26 am)

DrJones Member
From: Spain Registered: 2007-12-19 Posts: 209

munia wrote:

This is probably a stupid question, but can we copy Heisig's stories as long as we don't share them, or would that be infringement of copyright?

I think it's indeed a stupid question. smile

Of course you can! ?nimo y sigue. wink

munia Member
From: Spain Registered: 2005-11-08 Posts: 19 Website

I thought so. ?Gracias, DrJones! big_smile

woelpad Member
From: Chiba Registered: 2006-11-07 Posts: 425

ファブリス wrote:

In practice you should copy the story because the author can edit his at any time.

You have a point there. I guess I'm thinking more of the situation where you initially select a few stories, after the first reviews see what sticks, copy that one in your box and remove the stars for the others (or leave them as is to have a few alternatives down the road, when that 'sticky' story turns out to be most forgetable after all). A 'My Pickings' if you like. Worth a script?

ファブリス wrote:

I tried displaying the user's own votes but I didn't like the distinction it made, I had to use a "washed out" star to indicate unvoted and another bright one for the user's own votes, and I didn't like the extra distinction back then, I'll try again. It's happened to me to vote a story twice and realize I just un-voted it but this seemed a minor problem..

Any indication will do, thank you.

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