What is the real meaning of the "silver" primitive?

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Reply #1 - 2008 January 28, 12:31 pm
romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

I just got to the "silver" primitive and was wondering what it really means. In RTK it says that its more trouble to hunt out than its worth and that its better to just learn it, but I am curious.
Thanks

Reply #2 - 2008 January 28, 12:32 pm
romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

oh wait I just ran across this: 艮 【ごん】 (n) gen (one of the trigrams of the I Ching: mountain, northeast). I also saw something saying it means "good."

Reply #3 - 2008 January 28, 5:02 pm
vosmiura Member
From: SF Bay Area Registered: 2006-08-24 Posts: 1085

Good has a drop on top 良.

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Reply #4 - 2008 January 28, 5:49 pm
JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

It represents a person with their eyes facing backwards, and the original meaning is "to avert one's eyes."

Reply #5 - 2008 January 28, 7:10 pm
sutebun Member
From: Oregon Registered: 2007-06-29 Posts: 172

JimmySeal wrote:

It represents a person with their eyes facing backwards, and the original meaning is "to avert one's eyes."

T-1000?

Great on another level now.

Last edited by sutebun (2008 January 28, 7:10 pm)

Reply #6 - 2008 January 28, 8:16 pm
romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

vosmiura wrote:

Good has a drop on top 良.

yeah i know, but in the program "rikaichan" it says that it means good (without the drop)

Reply #7 - 2008 January 29, 12:59 am
Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

Rikai-chan uses the EDICT dictionary file which has countless errors in it. However, I don't know if that is one of them.

Reply #8 - 2008 January 29, 1:48 pm
ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

To be fair EDICT lists "good radical" as one meaning for the radical when it appears as a kanji on its own, which is not the same as "good". Kanji Learner's Dictionary does not reference this radical as a stand-alone kanji (i.e. 艮 ).

Etymological meaning is what JimmySeal said apparently, you can find such meanings on http://www.zhongwen.com/ for example (try search on "radical").

Maybe that's a good example where the etymological meaning doesn't help wink

Reply #9 - 2008 January 29, 11:09 pm
romanrozhok Member
From: NY state Registered: 2007-02-26 Posts: 37

interesting site faburisu

Reply #10 - 2008 January 30, 12:41 am
naniwa Member
From: Sydney Registered: 2006-12-09 Posts: 31

I recently splashed out on The Kanji Dictionary by Spahn and Hadamitzky. It claims to have over 5900 characters (7000+ including variants) as well as 47 000 compounds. It wasn't cheap, but it's a great resource and has an entry for 艮: GON, one of eight hakke divination signs.
I'll leave it to someone else to find out what a hakke divination sign actually is.

Reply #11 - 2008 January 30, 1:17 am
Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

naniwa wrote:

I'll leave it to someone else to find out what a hakke divination sign actually is

Japanese
English

Edit: testing the above Japanese link, it works for me in Firefox but not in Safari. Not sure why. Something to do with the Japanese in the URL I imagine (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/八卦).

sutebun wrote:

T-1000?

Looks like someone's been overdoing it with the eyedrops.

Last edited by Katsuo (2008 January 30, 1:22 am)

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