"Just do it!"
Yeah, heard this message before in the many threads and I just downloaded Nuke's updated Optimized Core deck.
However, I am still using this site for RTK study and want to know what a good jumping off point is. I completed the portion of adding Kanji for RTK about a week ago and have been reviewing them and the stories off the site ever since.
My Due cards average about 100 each day and I have 75% retention, but the cards that need to be relearned keep adding up. I usually clear out 50-100 each day and now I have 247 in the Relearn Pile. I DO write them out.
My plan was originally to get that Relearn Pile down, and focus on the Core deck, and I seem to have an easy enough time recognizing most kanji. Even if I can't tell what a kanji means(the keyword I remember studying it under I mean), I still get a sense of "Hey, "lve seen that before!"
I am aware there is an Anki deck for RTK, but since I have that 247 cards to relearn, I'm unsure if I should focus on keeping up with RTK using the site, or using the Anki deck.
What point did you guys stop using the site in favor of keeping up Kanji? Did you focus on the Anki deck in combo with a vocab deck, or just rely on a vocab deck to keep the retention till comfortable?
I suppose I should go into more detail.
Right now I'm working on The Core Optimized deck, at 32 cards a day. I had it set to 50, but after working at it for 3 days, I find that 32 is the most I can learn new words in an hour. If I go at around 30 words a day, I'll have been exposed to 2700 words in about 3 months. That sounds really obtainable and kinda fun really, considering I finished RTK in about 3 months, only this time I can focus on the readings and grammar, in considerable less time and effort per day.=p
My process when using Anki is like this(kinda adapted from what Nukemarie said he used in a previous discussion):
-New card comes up, I read the sentence out loud, being sure to break it up by structure, imagining each piece in my mind and connecting it to other events in my life(damn you Heisig)
- I listen to the answer card, get the new word and sentence pronunciation
-I write out the target word in kanji and kana
-I write out the whole sentence, breaking it down piece by piece, and saying it out loud
-I say the full sentence and move on to the next card
When it comes to reviews, I focus on just the target word I'm trying to recall, read the sentence in my mind and rate the results based on the target word only and move on.
Now for all other words in the sentences, I can recognize them from the keywords used in RTK. I defintely don't want to stop reviewing RTK outright, but using the stories to remember the kanji in conjunction with what I'm doing with Anki is going to slow me down so much if I place a focus on the story method.
I could go with the RTK deck, and focus on recalling the kanji's writing, instead of using the site and going from story, to recall, to writing, but I don't know if I'd be shooting myself in the foot there when I just got done adding stories a week ago. I already focus on recalling the writing and reading when doing the vocab decks.
I COULD focus on Anki vocab one day, and focus every other day on the site, but this would slow down my vocab acquisition....
comeauch
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This website allows you to export all your stories as a .csv file and I believe there's a way to import this in Anki. I'm not sure about the details, I've never used this website's review option, but it should be doable!
Sure, the cards would all be "new", but this only means a little more study time for you.
As for in general about RTK, I don't see any good reason to ever stop reviewing it, but I do let it pile up for months. As a matter of fact, it's currently at almost 1000 reviews due ;P I don't consider it necessary anymore to bring it down to 0, because I won't be adding new cards to it, or very rarely. I just review some whenever I feel like it.
Stansfield123
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PkmnTrainerAbram wrote:
"Just do it!"
Yeah, heard this message before in the many threads and I just downloaded Nuke's updated Optimized Core deck.
However, I am still using this site for RTK study and want to know what a good jumping off point is. I completed the portion of adding Kanji for RTK about a week ago and have been reviewing them and the stories off the site ever since.
I reviewed RtK for three months after I added the last Kanji. Now, when I fail to recognize a Kanji in a word I'm learning, I just check the story once to refresh my memory, and it's enough. It sticks for the foreseeable future.
But I am obviously still using the Heisig method (the visual mnemonics), when I do that. I just use it the old fashioned way, without SRS.
So I haven't jumped off RtK, I only jumped off my Anki deck. The time to jump off RtK is when you no longer need it, because you know the Kanji without the story. I have a feeling that, for a lot of rare Kanji, that's gonna be never, you'll always need the story.
Last edited by Stansfield123 (2013 June 14, 3:29 pm)
