Does anyone use manga to help memorize kana?

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Reply #1 - 2013 May 21, 4:59 pm
thefransw New member
Registered: 2013-02-07 Posts: 4

I like to open a volume of manga with lots o' fanservice and try to read the hiragana and katakana inbetween busting through kanji (I started around 2 weeks ago thats why I still don't know vocab,grammar, and fully kana) and have found it is very helpful I have hiragana down and almost katakana anyone else do this? (I use triage X btw)

Reply #2 - 2013 May 21, 7:40 pm
howtwosavealif3 Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-02-09 Posts: 889 Website

sure go for it... the only way to get better at reading is to read A LOT. maybe also look into song lyrics since rikai-chan will let you read kanji.

and i don't know how available it is to you but there's books written completely in hiragana for children like this http://tsukinofune.tumblr.com/post/5082 … y-in-japan lol (j/k this is a screencap from a documentary about sex ed)

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Reply #3 - 2013 May 21, 7:43 pm
Aspiring Member
From: San Diego Registered: 2012-08-13 Posts: 307

^yeah.

also, in my opinion it's worth the extra effort to learn kana through rote memory (e.g. paper flashcards)

but if you're past that point reading manga is a great idea

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Reply #4 - 2013 May 21, 8:20 pm
Silty Member
Registered: 2013-05-16 Posts: 26

Nah, Pokemon worked a lot better for me, since it's all kana. I really think it's an underrated kana practice tool.

I see Shonen/Shojo manga more as "training wheels" for kanji.

Last edited by Silty (2013 May 21, 8:20 pm)

Reply #5 - 2013 May 21, 8:57 pm
bimspramirez Member
Registered: 2012-12-07 Posts: 43

I do use manga too from time to time to brush up my Kana. But I also expose myself in reading online news, keitai, kana in gmail, playing kana games in android.

If you want you can check the following sites:

http://learnjapanesepod.com/kana-invaders/ - Galaga-like kana typing game (I like this one because it makes you feel you are not studying at all)

http://kanarecog.heroku.com/ - Kana word typing game (Great reinforcement too)

Hope this helps! smile

Last edited by bimspramirez (2013 May 21, 8:58 pm)

Reply #6 - 2013 May 21, 9:40 pm
thefransw New member
Registered: 2013-02-07 Posts: 4

Silty wrote:

Nah, Pokemon worked a lot better for me, since it's all kana. I really think it's an underrated kana practice tool.

I see Shonen/Shojo manga more as "training wheels" for kanji.

Which pokemon? I have 10 volumes of pokemon special on my comp and it has kanji in it.

Reply #7 - 2013 May 21, 11:42 pm
vonPeterhof Member
Registered: 2010-07-23 Posts: 376

thefransw wrote:

Silty wrote:

Nah, Pokemon worked a lot better for me, since it's all kana. I really think it's an underrated kana practice tool.

I see Shonen/Shojo manga more as "training wheels" for kanji.

Which pokemon? I have 10 volumes of pokemon special on my comp and it has kanji in it.

I'm pretty sure Silty meant the games. I think Black and White were the first ones in the series to have any kanji in them.

As for manga, I found よつばと! (Yotsuba&!) to be useful in this kind of practice. The title character's lines are entirely in hiragana, and the other characters' dialogue isn't much harder. Besides, it's the kind of manga where it's generally not that hard to figure out what's happening from the visuals alone.

Reply #8 - 2013 May 22, 4:22 am
RawToast お巡りさん
From: UK Registered: 2012-09-03 Posts: 431 Website

http://learnjapanesepod.com/kana-invaders/ - Galaga-like kana typing game (I like this one because it makes you feel you are not studying at all)

I like that one, it's similar to Brainspeed where it feels more like a game. My katakana reading has always been much slower than my hiraganareading, so nice to find something that helps smile

Reply #9 - 2013 May 22, 8:50 am
Silty Member
Registered: 2013-05-16 Posts: 26

vonPeterhof wrote:

thefransw wrote:

Silty wrote:

Nah, Pokemon worked a lot better for me, since it's all kana. I really think it's an underrated kana practice tool.

I see Shonen/Shojo manga more as "training wheels" for kanji.

Which pokemon? I have 10 volumes of pokemon special on my comp and it has kanji in it.

I'm pretty sure Silty meant the games. I think Black and White were the first ones in the series to have any kanji in them.

Oops, yes. That.  Plus, BW still has the option for pure kana.

Reply #10 - 2013 May 22, 11:51 am
pauro02 Member
Registered: 2013-04-08 Posts: 126

Why bother so much in memorizing the hiragana and katakana, I guess you will just be able to memorize it along the way when you study your grammar and vocabulary, and when you start studying kanji.. I suggest that if you have difficulties memorizing it, then just familiarize it, then you proceed with your studies about the grammar and vocabulary.. Surely, you will just memorize it without even knowing along the way..

Reply #11 - 2013 May 22, 12:10 pm
Silty Member
Registered: 2013-05-16 Posts: 26

pauro02 wrote:

Why bother so much in memorizing the hiragana and katakana, I guess you will just be able to memorize it along the way when you study your grammar and vocabulary, and when you start studying kanji.. I suggest that if you have difficulties memorizing it, then just familiarize it, then you proceed with your studies about the grammar and vocabulary.. Surely, you will just memorize it without even knowing along the way..

It's a lot easier to "think in Japanese" if you don't need to spend 2 seconds remembering kana each time, and think in kana instead of romaji.  Japanese (along with Chinese) is a very visual language, as opposed to most other languages which focus more on the auditory.

Reply #12 - 2013 May 22, 2:07 pm
pauro02 Member
Registered: 2013-04-08 Posts: 126

Silty wrote:

pauro02 wrote:

Why bother so much in memorizing the hiragana and katakana, I guess you will just be able to memorize it along the way when you study your grammar and vocabulary, and when you start studying kanji.. I suggest that if you have difficulties memorizing it, then just familiarize it, then you proceed with your studies about the grammar and vocabulary.. Surely, you will just memorize it without even knowing along the way..

It's a lot easier to "think in Japanese" if you don't need to spend 2 seconds remembering kana each time, and think in kana instead of romaji.  Japanese (along with Chinese) is a very visual language, as opposed to most other languages which focus more on the auditory.

I don't know what you mean out here, so please do excuse me.. As per experience on how I memorized the hiragana and katakana.. Uhmmm... I just memorized(maybe it's not memorizing but familiarizing) it for 2 hrs on each.. Then I study the vocabulary and grammar in hiragana and katakana (no kanjis).. Then When I encounter characters that I've forgot, then I refer back.. After a week maybe of studying some sentence patterns and memorizing vocabularies, I was like reading hiragana and katakana like English alphabets.. Either way, I was just curious about the OP.. If you are reading a manga in hiragana and katakana, then you must at least had undergone some grammar and vocabulary studies for you to comprehend what you were reading.. So why bother on reading manga in hiras and katakanas only if you could memorized it merely when you were still studying grammars and vocabularies on up to some extent enough for you to comprehend manga stories in japanese... So I suggest reading mangas for Kanji memorizing purposes, and not just for hiragana and katakana; because I see it as a waste of time, in my own opinion of course.. Please feel free to correct me though, if I have missed or I may be wrong partly in some parts of my point..

Reply #13 - 2013 May 22, 5:59 pm
uisukii Guest

One tool you could use to have more kana in your Japanese reading is:
http://nihongo.j-talk.com/

For example, if you wanted you could convert something like this:

右肘痛で戦線離脱していた中日・吉見一起投手(28)が、右肘内側側副靱帯(じんたい)の再建手術を受けることになった。21日に球団が発表したもので、6月4日に名古屋市内の病院で行われる。投球再開まで約1年程度を要する見込みで、今季はもちろん来季の開幕も絶望的。エースが野球人生を懸けて右肘にメスを入れることを決断した。
吉見が悩みに悩んだ末に出した結論は、通称「トミー・ジョン手術」を受けることだった。5月7日のヤクルト戦の五回途中で、右肘に違和感を訴えて途中降板。その後は出場選手登録を抹消され、入念に右肘の検査を続けてきた。http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130522-00000006-dal-base

To this:

みぎ 右 migi noun (1) right; right hand side (2) afore-mentioned (esp. in vertical Japanese writing); foregoing; forgoing; above       ひじ つう で せんせん りだつ し て い た ちゅうにち ・ よしみ かずき とうしゅ ( に はち ) が 、 みぎ ひじうち がわ がわ ふく じんたい ( じん たい ) の さいけん しゅじゅつ を うける こと に なっ た 。 に いち にち に きゅうだん が はっぴょう し た もの で 、 ろくがつ よん にち に なごや しない の びょういん で おこなわ れる 。 とうきゅう さいかい まで やく いち ねん ていど を ようする みこみ で 、 こんき は もちろん らいき の かいまく も ぜつぼう てき 。 エース が やきゅう じんせい を かけ て みぎ ひじ に メス を いれる こと を けつだん し た 。
よしみ が なやみ に なやん だ すえ に だし た けつろん は 、 つうしょう 「 トミー ・ ジョン しゅじゅつ 」 を うける こと だっ た 。 ごがつ なな にち の ヤクルト せん の ご かい とちゅう で 、 みぎ ひじ に いわかん を うったえ て とちゅう こうばん 。 そのご は しゅつじょう せんしゅ とうろく を まっしょう さ れ 、 にゅうねん に みぎ ひじ の けんさ を つづけ て き た 。 http hmm/ headlines . yahoo . co . jp / hl ? a = 20130522 - 00000006 - dal - base

And use that to practice reading/writing kana. The converted text has a "spaced-rollover" feature which seems to function similar to rikaichan.

Though to be honest when it comes to straight up rote memorization, it's probably more enjoyable with interactive media such as video games.

There is a free download of a simple RPG based on learning kana and kanji (the full version costs money but not much, from memory):
http://lrnj.com/

I played around with it a while back and it was both challenging and fun. Might be something to use alongside reading manga?

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