Memorizing Kanji

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SwordSaint_122 New member
Registered: 2013-02-26 Posts: 2

I just start memorizing kanji last friday and i can read 180 kanji now my problem is i can read those 180 when i see them for example  in aniki, in this website and some pictures from a conversation in a visual novel but i cant write them will this become a problem for me if i continue doing like this

JapaneseRuleOf7 Member
From: Japan Registered: 2012-01-06 Posts: 201 Website

I'm going to say no.  After a while, I found I could spontaneously write many kanji, despite having never practiced them.  It's actually kind of amazing, but you get to know them so well that you can just naturally write them.  Also, don't forget you're most likely going to use a keyboard, in which case knowing the readings of the characters is really the issue.

Of course, if you want to have anything like "nice" handwriting, then you'll have to practice.  My handwriting is horrible in any language, but I really don't care.  Thankfully, I'm a fab-a-lous typist.

The only downside to practicing writing is the time it takes.  It will help your recall of the characters, but arguably not enough to compensate for the time it takes. 

Ultimately, it's up to you, whether having nice handwriting is really worth it to you.  Bearing in mind, of course, there's a lot of other places you could be expending the same effort.

Animosophy Member
Registered: 2013-02-19 Posts: 180

If you're using Anki, aren't you supposed to write the kanji down? There's a shared deck on the website with a large "KanjiStrokeOrder" font for RTK 1+3 and the 2010 joyo kanji. At least that's how I thought you were supposed to go about it. I've got about 40 pages worth of messy kanji collages in front of me. Bad handwriting on closer inspection, but nice to flick through.

It doesn't take long, either. My average answer time is 20.something seconds per card, and I go through about 60 new kanji/day.

Then again I'm on my gap year, and I have no responsibilities.

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Stansfield123 Member
From: Europe Registered: 2011-04-17 Posts: 799

Writing is an important part of Japanese. You can of course just learn reading and speaking, but you're limiting your options as far as study methods, and then later your options in using the language.

Writing them down also helps you learn the Kanji, and later words. I would advise against not learning to write them.

SwordSaint_122 New member
Registered: 2013-02-26 Posts: 2

my reason for studying kanji is to read VN and manga in japanese as well as to translate them to english and i configure my aniki so that the first one to appear is the kanji then the english translation btw im using Heisig's Remember the Kanji 1-3 w/top 2 community stories is this deck good for me

bimspramirez Member
Registered: 2012-12-07 Posts: 43

I have to agree with Stansfield123 about writing. It helps me a lot in recalling Kanji but this is just me. There are other people who don't even bother with this area (writing) and still became successful.

So, it is up to you. Recall why you are learning the language and ask yourself if your current study method is good enough to achieve your goals. If yes, then you will be just fine.

I don't know if we have the same deck. I just got mine off the shared decks. Just an English keyword in front and the kanji at the back. Plain and simple, works for me.

Btw, what is VN? Just curious. smile

NightSky Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-04-13 Posts: 302

Let me just add a vote for not bothering to learn to write. Besides half the time the problem isn't being able to remember how to write a single character anyway, its remembering which two characters even made up some word compound.

I completed a Nintendo DS app years ago which including writing up to about 1000 characters, and although I think this was helpful, I never learned any further and I've never written anything since. I've never found this any hindrance for learning to recognise words and for being able to read, so considering the huge time sink it is to learn to do properly I'm not at all convinced its worth it.

I learn to read Kanji as I learn new words within Anki, so for any new word I learn I'll always learn how its written too. I feel like I have very little 'overhead' or extra time being spent on Kanji, they just get absorbed naturally and I'm then able to read them fine or write them on a PC or IPhone with no problems.

For some of my friends that are convinced they need to be able to write all the characters, they are all way behind my own reading ability. And that's because they have separated out the process and try to power through Kanji as a separate thing -- and since its so time consuming and takes a lot of effort to see any benefit at all, they tend to get behind, or end up giving up on writing altogether.

I have a Japanese friend who moved to the UK when she was about 10 or so, and moved back after University. She speaks at native level and can read perfectly too, but her writing is bad since she stopped learning to write when she was so much younger. She doesn't feel the need to get any better at it since she so rarely has to write by hand, and when she does need to (say, when taking notes in a business meeting) she takes all the notes in English. Apparently even if she knows how to write the character, its still faster to just write in English anyway.

So yeah, I suggest you do that.

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