RawToast お巡りさん
From: UK Registered: 2012-09-03 Posts: 431 Website

Betelgeuzah wrote:

That said some people are the opposite. They enjoy understanding. They enjoy effortless production and immersion. They enjoy the constant feedback that eyes can see- that they are learning something new. They find value in getting 90% of words right in Anki and then going out there to the wild and witness all that they have come to understand. They don't particularly enjoy the opposite- not understanding, not being able to produce the language. It is frustrating especially when practically everything they come across is that kind of material in the beginning.

Steve Kaufmann touches upon that in his interview with Stephen Krashen. Some people just can't move to native reading materials when they only understand say 40% of the content, instead they need to understand ~80%.

Northern_Lord Member
From: Norway Registered: 2013-02-26 Posts: 110

daevil wrote:

Wow this thread got more posts then I thought it would have.

Okay so if I conclude all this, Tae Kim will be a good decision.

Tae Kim's guide to Japanese is good. But I'd advice you to use Pomax' introduction to Japanese at nihongoresources.com instead. It's tenfolds more detailed and gives you a solid foundation on all the basics of Japanese grammar. If you do lesson 1, 2 and 3 there first, then you should move to Tae Kim, in lack of a better online alternative.

Reply #78 - 2013 March 01, 5:16 am
Stansfield123 Member
From: Europe Registered: 2011-04-17 Posts: 799

tokyostyle wrote:

Stansfield123 wrote:

Laughable.

To quote David Duchovny playing Hank Moody, "NAILED IT!"

You don't have enough experience learning Japanese to be giving a definitive opinion and the advice of "all you need is these two free materials" is so misleading.  If you dislike the ideas given at JALUP and AJATT then take that up with them.

If I understand troll speak correctly, your answer to my question is zero. That's how many foreign languages you have learned so far. Mine is a number other than zero. That makes me infinitely more qualified to judge what is and what isn't a good language learning resource.

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