Ajanime22
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From: New York
Registered: 2012-04-09
Posts: 11
I just updated to ankimobile ver. 2.0 yesterday and I've regretted it ever since. It's way more complicated for no reason at all, it limits you to do only a 100 cards per day, doesn't allow you to review early, and takes ridiculously long to sync the decks to the web. I don't understand why they would put a limit on your learning process. It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't feel a learning program should restrain your learning process and just leave you stagnant and have nothing to do for the rest of the day. What if I'm going on vacation for a few days and want to go ahead so I don't have to worry about it? Then what? I HAVE to do Anki on my vacation? That's ridiculous! Another thing that pisses me off is the amount of time it takes to sync. Before. I could just press "Sync" when I'm done and it would literally take like 5-7 seconds and "TING" it'd bedone. Now, it takes like 5-7 MINUTES just to sync 3 decks. WHY?!!! Luckily, I had a mobile device yhat I didn't do the Anki update on. So, I just deleted the horrible update on the device that I updated andcopied the good Anki 1.8 onto it from the other device that had it. THANK GOD I didn't update Anki for both devices!! Anyway, this is just MY take on the update. Maybe other people find it better, but I personally, strongly dislike it and don't advise you to update unless they fix the problems I've listed. The old version is simple, quick, and easy and I now realize how great it is. All in all, I strongly suggest that if you use Anki, DON'T update!! I think there is a good chace that you'll regret it. I know I did.
bwhorrocks
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From: California
Registered: 2009-09-07
Posts: 1
I just upgraded both the desktop and mobile (iPhone) to 2.0 and have had no serious problems. You can, in fact, change the number of reviews up or down on both versions for all or some of your decks (Options); 100 is just the default.
As for syncing, I find it is even faster than the old version. However, if you have a lot of media files associated with your decks, the 2.0 versions will attempt to upload/download all of these files to AnkiWeb the first time you sync, which takes some time. I had over 250MB of media files. There were a few errors reported during the initial syncs, but resyncing recovered flawlessly. The site is getting a lot of traffic now, and this morning I had a notice that it was too busy to sync - a few minutes later, no problem.
*.0 versions of software are likely to have problems, and Anki 2.0 is no exception. Anyone who doesn't like the idea of spending a day or two adjusting to the changes - that is, anyone who wants to focus on subject matter of the SRS rather than dealing with bugs and new "features" - might want to wait until a couple of fix releases have been made.
s0apgun
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From: Chicago
Registered: 2011-12-24
Posts: 453
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Seriously man? Grow a brain. You think Damien, the guy who programmed the original Anki that you love so much is just out to get everyone and is making Anki2 worse? Lol, where is the logic in that. Anki has been significantly improved in the new version, please read the FAQ's to understand the thought process behind the changes before posting things like this... especially on the Koohii forum.
http://ankisrs.net/docs/dev/changes.html
The review cap can be changed on both devices.
Anki2 wrote:
Decks now have a limit on daily reviews as well, which defaults to 100. When the limit is reached, Anki will not present further reviews from that deck, even if there are cards waiting. When the congratulations page is reached, a notice will be displayed, advising the user that for optimum memory, they should consider increasing the daily limit. This change is intended to reduce the sense of being overwhelmed that people feel after returning to Anki from a break. Large due counts can be off-putting, and while it’s not optimal for a user to leave due cards waiting, if they give up in frustration that’s an even worse outcome.
No limit is applied to cards in learning, as the learning count is a product of the number of new cards and reviews that are done each day.
I have Anki2 on my computer and iPhone and I can say with my decks that have 10,000+ facts total and full media databases, the software syncs in seconds after the first initial full sync. Which the original Anki did the same thing on the first sync, it took a couple minutes to download the media.
I recommend Anki2 to anyone right now as its core structure is quite stable and there is only small bugs left in the UI to be fixed.
EDIT: Anki2 does sync faster too due to the new use of user profiles for storing all the decks instead of syncing separate decks. It allows for much smaller sized file to be transferred.
Last edited by s0apgun (2012 October 20, 2:48 pm)
Flamerokz
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From: #rtk@irc.rizon.net
Registered: 2010-07-10
Posts: 81
While it is understandable that it may be frustrating to get adjusted to the new changes, you might want to read up on a few of the key things on the user manual before upgrading to get used to customizing things the way you like. The 100 cards/day limit specifically can be changed just by accessing the options page for a deck (the gear on the homepage listing your decks; under the "Reivews" tab in the field "Maximum reviews/day"). Some of the performance boosts are amazing so I definitely don't mind learning how to get around the new interface. As for your 5-7 minutes just to sync 3 decks, the first sync may take a while because your media (if you're using any) gets synced directly to Ankiweb instead of Dropbox or something like that. Afterwards the sync should be fairly quick. If it always takes 5-7 minutes to sync then maybe it is incorrectly resyncing media every time.
You can review early but it isn't as simple as the previous "Review Early" button; you do it via the "Filter/cram button" which lets you use specific delimiters to narrow down the focus of what you want to review. (For example, to review all cards due in 1 day or less, you would input in the "Search" field "prop:due<=1" with or without quotes I believe). Yeah another change but ultimately it is more versatile in how you can review early or review specific things outside of the usual schedule.
Anki 2 boasts some pretty great changes but you have to deal with getting adjusted to the changes. If that's a deal breaker then so be it. It's not necessarily the case that things you listed are inherent problems/bugs with the program, but just executed/accessed differently in the new major update.
EDIT:
I forgot to mention that for me, the Ankimobile 2 update has insane performance boosts for me. My large, media-heavy decks that took sometimes 2-3 minutes to sync or just open before now take less than a second.
Last edited by Flamerokz (2012 October 20, 2:51 pm)
tashippy
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From: New York
Registered: 2011-06-18
Posts: 566
I haven't uploaded to 2 yet because the website says:
"AnkiDroid is not quite ready yet. AnkiDroid (Android) has been updated for Anki 2, but it is still being polished for release and is in open beta. It is fairly stable at this point, but there are still some critical issues the AnkiDroid developers would like to get to, and they are currently quite busy. Adventurous users can download the latest beta build from the AnkiDroid page. If you're not comfortable with running beta software, please don't download Anki 2 yet, as the old AnkiDroid is not compatible with it."
Is that not correct or up-to-date? i put off troubleshooting some minor issues i've had with ankidroid in the hopes i wouldn't have said issues once i upgraded.
ps i thought your phone exploded or you at least lost all your progress in a deck based on your typo, wrong forum, all caps, and excessive exclamation marks.
Last edited by tashippy (2012 October 20, 3:46 pm)
This upgrade has been a huge pain in the but for me as well. The sync keeps crashing media is missing. A deck only has 2 options to press instead of the usual 4 (ie. easy, med, hard, again)
They (re)play button is missing for at least one of my decks on the desktop
The upgrade messed up some of my decks... They no longer show media
My ipod broke when I deleted Anki and restarted it (probably just a coincidence.. but its never happened before). -> forced upgrade to ios6
The documentation is poorly organized....
Been trying to fix things since yesterday... hopefully everything will turn out ok
If you haven't upgraded yet I would honestly wait a week until us guinea pigs are done and hopefully things will be better by that point
Last edited by juniperpansy (2012 October 20, 6:01 pm)
Responding to a few points above:
- 5-7 minutes is abnormal, and I haven't heard anyone else experiencing that. Please try rebooting your device and router.
- An issue with AnkiWeb that was causing media syncs to fail occasionally has been fixed. Media syncing picked up where it left off so you could sync again to continue, but it should be more reliable now anyway.
- The AnkiDroid message is up to date.
- "The upgrade messed up some of my decks... They no longer show media" - This is covered in the change notes, which I suspect you did not read fully.
- "My ipod broke when I deleted Anki and restarted it" - apps can not break your device.
- "The documentation is poorly organized...." - I spent quite a lot of time on the docs. If you have any concrete suggestions I'm happy to hear them.
- "Now Ankimini keeps crashing when I try to import my cards to it through itunes" - AnkiMobile was in beta testing for some time, but inevitably some problems don't get picked up during the beta testing period. If you're on a non-iPad please make sure you choose the 'replace' option, and if you're on an iPad please wait until I can get a bugfix release out, which will fix a bug where the button fails to appear on the iPad.
