Atari founder talks about learning and SRS

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shinsen Member
Registered: 2009-02-18 Posts: 181

Here's a recent interview with Nolan Bushnell, the founder of Atari:
Interview on Youtube
Watch for about 5 mins from the spot I linked to hear him talk about "flow" and SRS. Nothing ground-breaking, it's just interesting because it's Nolan. Watch the video from the beginning to hear him tell what it was like to be Steve Jobs' first employer when Jobs was 19.

I think "flow" is under-appreciated among RTK'ers. SRS is a numbers game where you have a certain number of kanji to review daily, so it's easy to miss out on the concept of "flow" - focusing completely, losing yourself in the process, forgetting about time and most of all, being very happy in the process.

Crispy Member
From: UK Registered: 2012-05-08 Posts: 126

Thanks, he's an interesting guy smile I enjoyed the whole thing.

nadiatims Member
Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 1676

Interesting interview.

I think he's overestimating the value of remembering everything you've ever learned though, and underestimating the cost involved in achieving it (review time among other things). There is value in being selective about what to spend time remembering. Especially entering a time where information is becoming ubiquitous and instantaneously available on demand anyway. I think it's more useful to be able to process/analyze and effectively search/filter data than be able necessarily to just retain it.

Last edited by nadiatims (2012 October 02, 5:53 am)

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nihongonotame Member
From: Africa Registered: 2012-02-23 Posts: 38

Thanks for sharing, so it's called "the flow", something you feel and experience from a long time but you just can't give it a name.
I was alwase wondering how to make learning new stuff as enjoyable as playing video games and at least I knew that having a score and some statistics that grows up leads at least to more efficiency.
Not like having a notebook where nothing seems interactive.
So that means you can reach a state where you through a year evolve in learning in such way you make every week better than the previous one?Until reaching something like 200 vocab per day or just reach a memory champion level ?
Alwase asking my self this kind of questions.

shinsen Member
Registered: 2009-02-18 Posts: 181

nadiatims wrote:

I think he's overestimating the value of remembering everything you've ever learned though, and underestimating the cost involved in achieving it (review time among other things). There is value in being selective

Well, I think "we all" are overestimating and underestimating these things on a regular basis. We waste time when we fail to filter out the less important information and forget to review what's important and let it decay.

So the system they're discussing is where the computer knows what you've learned (400 Physics modules) and your brain's decay rate for that information. You are still free to ignore the suggestion to review, of course, but you'll know you're making a choice to let that info decay. It becomes a more conscious choice what knowledge you want to keep fresh in your head. You'll also think twice about taking on new learning if you're not willing to take on new reviews. You'll see those reviews pile up and you'll realize your resources are limited. Maybe this will help us focus on what's important.

nihongonotame wrote:

Thanks for sharing, so it's called "the flow"

What Nolan was referring to is a book called "Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience".

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