Question about after kanji

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Reply #1 - 2012 July 30, 10:59 am
atambohmer Member
From: United States Registered: 2012-06-06 Posts: 16

I don't remember where I read it, but someone on this site recommended that once you see a kanji "in the wild" you should suspend it in the Heisig deck.  Should I suspend kanji that I see while I'm doing sentences or just keep reviewing everything?

Reply #2 - 2012 July 30, 11:02 am
TwoMoreCharacters Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2010-07-10 Posts: 480

Doing that sounds like way too much to me. Maybe this person was reviewing RTK going kanji-to-keyword and not the other way around?

Reply #3 - 2012 July 30, 11:05 am
Miyumera Member
From: Toronto Registered: 2010-08-14 Posts: 172

I would just focus on Heisig.  you will have many many many chances to see kanji in the wild after you do heisig yikes) ..  I personaly don't see a point.  I'm in RTK3.  Just want to finish it and then focus on kanji in the wild.  which is pretty much what heisigs method is.

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Reply #4 - 2012 July 30, 11:13 am
frony0 Member
From: London United Kingdom Registered: 2011-12-10 Posts: 257

atambohmer wrote:

I don't remember where I read it, but someone on this site recommended that once you see a kanji "in the wild" you should suspend it in the Heisig deck.  Should I suspend kanji that I see while I'm doing sentences or just keep reviewing everything?

I agree with TwoMoreCharacters, that sounds like incredible overkill, and quite pointless frankly... The reverse sounds more sensible; activate a card in your heisig deck if you see it often in the wild and know what it means anyway. I did that with a few like 行 and 文 at the start.

Reply #5 - 2012 July 30, 12:02 pm
atambohmer Member
From: United States Registered: 2012-06-06 Posts: 16

Okay, thanks everyone. I was just making sure that's not what most people were doing. After all, I only saw one person recommend it. I'll just keep everything active in my Heisig deck and do my reviews along with learning grammar.

Reply #6 - 2012 July 30, 12:42 pm
EratiK Member
From: Paris Registered: 2010-07-15 Posts: 874

I think the idea behind the recommendation was to make long term retention easier: once you meet a kanji, it counts as a rep, therefore your deck should take that into account. The flaw of the suspension is for uncommon kanji who knows when you'll meet them again. The ideal would be a "forced-pass to next stack" fonction, but I guess that doesn't exist yet.

Reply #7 - 2012 July 30, 8:47 pm
erlog Member
From: Japan Registered: 2007-01-25 Posts: 633

I wouldn't worry about over-exposure with stuff you SRS. If the material becomes easy for you then it's going to take up so little time and be pushed so far out that suspending it just seems like overkill.

The way I think about SRS is that the timings on cards are a worst case scenario. I know that at the very least if I don't encounter that word in the wild for a long time my deck will remind me of it. I've been reading a lot from novels recently. I also watch lots of Japanese TV and movies. I work in a Japanese office.

For the most part everything in my decks I'm seeing in the wild on a fairly regular basis, but I know that I don't have to worry about that 15-20% of rarer stuff. The SRS will remind me of it, and I'll be tested on it.

This is how I've come to think about SRS recently anyway. I used to micromanage a lot of my stuff around dumb deadlines I wanted to meet. More recently I've learned that just tossing everything in a big pile and having Anki sort it out is the way that seems best for me. I know that if I just do my reviews every day and have Anki set up properly that I'll reach whatever my goal is in however long I want without having to stress about it.

Last edited by erlog (2012 July 30, 8:48 pm)

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