frony0 Wrote:Buonaparte, is there any standardised list of the top x kanji and their etymologies that can be used to learn kanji instead of RTK? I'm starting to wish I did your method instead, but it does sound very laborious to find the etymology of each character manually...
The Henshall book has the etymology for all the Joyo Kanji.
I bought the book but reading the etymologies just didn't work for me.
RTK is what saved me and it's the only method that really worked for me.
It doesn't matter if it's illogical or not. It just plain works.
For evidence, read the "The "I just finished RTK1, please congratulate me"thread (http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=95
). How many methods do you know
that helped as many people pass the kanji barrier?
The cumulative order of kanji and primitives is RTK is one of the most beautiful parts.
Each lesson is built using the primitives and kanji presented in the previous chapters.
Lesson 4 will only use the kanji and primitives from Lesson 1-3.
Lesson 5 will only use the kanji and primitives from Lesson 1-4.
And so on.
When he runs out of new words, he introduces new kanji and primitives in that lesson.
That's an extremely efficient method. You don't have to flip forward
and backward to look for specific radicals. Also, there's no need to learn
all 214 radicals beforehand. Just learn as you go.
I tend to find that most people who complain about the RTK method either:
a)barely read the book (and think they know everything about how RTK works)
b)read the book, but made no real effort to understand everything (i.e. making shortcuts)
c)never read the book
Few people have legitimate reasons (but they do exist).
Just read previous threads.
But I think this thread is kind of silly.
It's kind of like being in a room full of successful world class pianists and telling
them that piano sucks, while your piano skills are non-existant (sometimes because they have no discipline) and they also suck at guitar, rhythm, and music theory. Basically, they
blame everyone/everything EXCEPT for themselves (when they are the problem).
If RTK is not for you, that's understandable.
But don't go around saying it sucks if you never gave
it an honest chance (i.e. making it well into part 3).
Some people here have committed all 2000 Kanji in 3 months or less with 80%-90%
retention. That's basically a summer vacation (for those kids in school) and you won't
ever have to worry about kanji for the rest of your life. Some people spend their whole
life trying other methods and never get that far.
Lastly, there was a comment of RTK being dry with no humor. Did they read all the stories on this site? Many are pretty damn funny. I even laugh at some of my stories sometimes. You're allowed to inject humor into your stories if you want. The stories are supposed to be related to your life or way of thinking.
Edited: 2012-08-31, 10:13 am