Arupan Wrote:(Off-topic)
Not many people seem to like Windows 8 for one reason or another though. Totally removing the start menu (I'm not sure if they added it in a later patch) wasn't a very good maneuver since many Microsoft employees behind 8 seem to have been fired after that.

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What exactly is the point of posting this? Flame baiting?
The start menu isn't "totally removed", at all. It took a whole allotment of seconds to find this article explaining how to bring about the previous Windows start menu functionality:
http://windows.about.com/od/customizingw...dows-8.htm

Damn, that's easier than it is for most people to do basic operations on even the most user friendly Linux, etc. Distros (and yet more and more "Open source, free" alternatives to commercial operating systems are becoming popular within popular culture than ever).
You know, people were saying the same when Windows made the departure from DOS to a GUI. It's kind of lame, and in this thread serves absolutely no purpose but to antagonise. There are a lot of perfectly valid complaints which can be made about the latest version of said operating system, so it seems odd to pick out something entirely irrelevant to the thread AND which, with a few minutes of independent research, is shown to be, in its assume most begin form, simply misleading and ill-formed misunderstanding.

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uisukii Wrote:The start menu isn't "totally removed", at all. It took a whole allotment of seconds to find this article explaining how to bring about the previous Windows start menu functionality:
http://windows.about.com/od/customizingw...dows-8.htm

That's not an article about restoring the start menu, that's an article about using a hidden folder called 'Start Menu' to create a folder-toolbar on your taskbar. That hidden folder does contain a file called Programs that contains links to many programs, but that's not a start menu. The article also includes instructions on how to create shortcuts that mimic many Start Menu features (shut down, control panel, etc.) but you have to create each one manually. Once you're all done it -still- isn't the Start Menu; you have to click on a tiny little spot to open it rather than a big easy-to-hit button, it doesn't automatically list your recently run or most used programs (although you can -- manually -- add shortcuts for things you want easy access to.)
It takes a lot more than 'seconds' to create and maintain this kludgy replacement for the start menu.

This may not be the appropriate place to be discussing this, you're right. However, you went on to attack the very premise of the complaint, and it's simply not true that it's a simply an 'ill-formed misunderstanding'. The Start Menu -is- gone, and kludging up something called 'Start Menu' isn't the same thing at all.

(I do use Windows 8 at the moment, and I've used linux as well. Following that lengthy procedure is nowhere -near- as easy as typing 'apt-get install start-menu' would be, even after possibly manually adding a line for the about.com repository, ... if only Windows actually used a decent package system.)

Arupan Wrote:(Off-topic)
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Man, I don't even remember making this post. It would seem I came off needlessly aggressive and over the top. Sorry about that.

There are a few things I disagree with you on this topic, but it isn't going to be fruitful to go into it. Agree to disagree?

Not really sure which 「"Pitch Accent" tread」 you are referring to.