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On Yomi dyslexia

#1
How confusing do these things get? You come across the ambiguous ones such as "Large, pedestal, reign, warrior, poverty, etc" how do you remember which on yomi reading to use?

The ones that are currently giving the dyslexia are the kanji with the on yomi that have voiced or same phoenetic value readings. I know about the pure groups and the "almost pure groups" and all that, but still have the dyslexia.

Here is some kanji that give me the dyslexia

Yellow, warrior, large, reign, pedestal...


On my flash cards, I write the meanings and readings on the back and kanji compounds on the front. When I review the compounds, I work from the pronunciation to the kanji, where I easily can recall the main kanji of the card and normally find myself scrambling my head to recall the other kanji.

How does everyone go about recalling the other kanji, apart from the main one on the flash card? I incorporate all the compounds of the flash cards into Japanese sentences with all the compounds that make up the meaning or a sentence to hang on to it, but unsure of which grammar to use for them. I'm assuming everyone writes stories to remember the compounds, similar to what you do to remember the meaning and writing from RTK1.
Edited: 2007-11-17, 4:39 pm
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#2
lankydan Wrote:how do you remember which on yomi reading to use, especially for those, like myself, who don't have the RTK books...Need help...
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#3
lankydan Wrote:Need help...
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You might try learning a "sample" compound for each yomi that you want to learn.
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lankydan Wrote:How confusing do these things get? You come across the ambiguous ones such as "Large, pedestal, reign, warrior, poverty, etc" how do you remember which on yomi reading to use, especially for those, like myself, who don't have the RTK books.

The ones that are currently giving the dyslexia are the kanji with the on yomi that have voiced or same phoenetic value readings. I know about the pure groups and the "almost pure groups" and all that, but still have the dyslexia.

Here is my On Yomi Dyslexia List

Yellow, warrior, large, reign, pedestal...

Need help...
Not having any RTK books aside, you just use the reading that the word has... kanji have different readings according to the word that they happen to be in.

For example: 大学 (the reading for "large"「大」 is 「だい」,
but here: 大使館 (the reading for it is 「たい」.

You just have to learn when to use either reading, go buy a book, doesn't have to be RTK2.. (although we all thoroughly recommend that.. >_<) any book covering vocab... "Kanji in context" might be worth a look.

Everyone struggles, (if they say they don't they're lying) so.. ガ・ン・バ・レ・
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#5
I have been using WAKAN dictionary to learn the readings. I've transcribed compounds to my flash cards to hang onto the readings.

I've tried writing stories for each compound in Japanese with a few compounds transcribed onto the flash cards and used the vocabulary on them to make some sentences for those compounds.

Does anyone know where I can get the RTK books from Australia? I've checked the bookstores, unfortunately none available.

By the way, how do you write kanji onto these forums? I've read on how to do the kana haven't found out for the kanji...
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lankydan Wrote:By the way, how do you write kanji onto these forums? I've read on how to do the kana haven't found out for the kanji...
After you are done typing the kana, you will see it underlined. Press space to see the various kanji options of the kana.
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#7
Could you be a little more specific with what you mean by on-yomi dyslexia? I'm thoroughly confused by this thread.
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#8
Generally On Yomi with readings of similar sounds.

For example the kanji for "Yellow" (pure group with "Sideways"), I find myself struggling on the sounds whether to use [kana] KOU OU [/kana] when it is on other kanji flash cards that are not specifically the card for "yellow". On my kanji card for "Copper", I've used the compounds "yellow, copper and mineral" where [kana] KOU [/kana] reading for "yellow" applies, then on the card for "Gold", I've used the compounds "Yellow and Gold" and the [kana]OU[/kana] reading is applied. If these were on the "yellow" card then it would be less daunting and the same thing applies for those on yomi with the voiced readings on other flash cards.

When it comes to reading Japanese text, without Furigana, and encounter kanji, that have multiple readings and you haven't learnt the word, how do you know which reading to apply assuming that you know all the readings for the kanji?
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lankydan Wrote:When it comes to reading Japanese text, without Furigana, and encounter kanji, that have multiple readings and you haven't learnt the word, how do you know which reading to apply assuming that you know all the readings for the kanji?
You can't. Generally you'll see that some readings are far more common, and you can usually guess, but you generally have to learn readings on a case by case basis.
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