I completed RTK maybe around six months ago, and I have some questions for others who have completed RTK and continue to rep using RevTK:

1. How long ago did you compete RTK?
2. How many cards are due, per day?
3. What is your average fail rate, per day?
4. Any comments?


For myself:
1. I completed RTK about six months ago
2. I average about 10 cards due per day
3. My failure rate is about 1 card per day (10% fail rate)
4. Is this "normal", or common post RTK?

1. Over 4 years ago.
2. i don't know.
3. i don't know.
4. RTK is not nearly as important as people make it out to be.

To answer your question number 4. Don't worry about failing 10 of your cards. Just start studying japanese now. They'll sink in eventually.

nadiatims Wrote:1. Over 4 years ago.
2. i don't know.
3. i don't know.
4. RTK is not nearly as important as people make it out to be.

To answer your question number 4. Don't worry about failing 10 of your cards. Just start studying japanese now. They'll sink in eventually.

Did you graduate beyond using RTK and RevTK? I'm guessing that you just study native material at this point. I guess I could start deleting cards that routinely show up in sentences and other material that I study. Or if I keep repping for another six months I can probably graduate from RevTK to sentences only.

I don't really study anymore. I just speak and listen to japanese in my life. I also read and write (at work).

Don't think of RTK as something you need to 'graduate' from. If you've gone through the book and reviewed enough that you can now remember say 80%, you really ought to focus on other studies. At this point you'll cement the kanji better as you learn their readings, vocabulary and usage. You're going to be doing a lot of dictionary look ups etc anyway, so it really doesn't matter if you're a bit foggy on a few kanji here and there. Language learning is like that. Fuzzy at first and then comes clarity. It's kind of like drawing a picture. Don't focus on finishing off details, until you have the whole picture roughly sketched out.

edit: forgot to mention. I completed RTK in a couple of months and then didn't even touch it. I still remember kanji just fine. I also did RTK3 a couple of months later in a pretty rushed manner. Objectively I'm not sure how useful RTK3 was.

I kind of stopped doing RTK reviews like a month after finishing. Probably even sooner. It was useful to do because now nothing is unfamiliar, and even if I don't remember the keyword I still know the parts that make the kanji up. But it's vocab time now, and I can solidify their meanings in my head with Japanese words, not English. I have 1300 expired cards now and I see no real value in going back to them.

1. How long ago did you compete RTK?
3 months ago
2. How many cards are due, per day?
40 cards
3. What is your average fail rate, per day?
Around 10%
4. Any comments?
Finishing RtK1 was extremely useful for me. It tremendously boosted my Kanji learning. I find it so easy now to learn using using KO2001. The projected time for finishing KO2001 is 4 months only.
However, you should know that you don't have to perfectly remember ever single card in the RtK1, as sooner or later you will "cement" that knowledge using vocabulary that utilize those Kanjis.
I don't think that I'll abandon that RtK reviews someday, coz they're already getting less and less everyday. And, according to Anki graphs, I'm supposed to start having days with no or very little reviews in about 6 months

nadiatims Wrote:I don't really study anymore. I just speak and listen to japanese in my life. I also read and write (at work).

Maybe at this point being on this forum helps you remember English more than it helps you learn Japanese. Your progress is phenomenal. Hopefully I'll get there, but obviously it will take me much longer.

fifo_thekid Wrote:1. How long ago did you compete RTK?
3 months ago
2. How many cards are due, per day?
40 cards
3. What is your average fail rate, per day?
Around 10%
4. Any comments?
Finishing RtK1 was extremely useful for me. It tremendously boosted my Kanji learning. I find it so easy now to learn using using KO2001. The projected time for finishing KO2001 is 4 months only.
However, you should know that you don't have to perfectly remember ever single card in the RtK1, as sooner or later you will "cement" that knowledge using vocabulary that utilize those Kanjis.
I don't think that I'll abandon that RtK reviews someday, coz they're already getting less and less everyday. And, according to Anki graphs, I'm supposed to start having days with no or very little reviews in about 6 months

Interesting. Your fail rate is the same as mine. I can't predict the number of cards due, since I'm doing RevTK, but it seems like I will have 10 cards due per day forever. So I'll never even reach the zero cards due per day, like you. But no matter, I'll do what most these guys do and move on to sentences only and native content.

1. 44 days ago
2. ~100 (i did RTK super fast, this is a lot lower than it was)
3. Today I was around 75% success, today was worse than most days. I am very tired which may have been a factor to this.
4. I will be very happy when I get to 50 cards a day.

fifo_thekid Wrote:However, you should know that you don't have to perfectly remember ever single card in the RtK1, as sooner or later you will "cement" that knowledge using vocabulary that utilize those Kanjis.

So true

I personally stopped using RTK after using it for 2.5 years. Why may you ask? It's because I felt it was weighing down on my retention rate. I started forgetting a lot of the story but not their meanings. Plus it wasn't training to write the kanji from memory but from their stories. It did enable me to write/understand their meanings but I write kanji from native material nowadays. I think using monolingual RTK cards would help but it would take a lot of time and I don't feel like starting RTK all over again.

I'm basically at the point where native material is the way to go.