dizmox Wrote:

Zon70 Wrote:I was in Japan for a month and a half and couldnt even find a women there, so maybe I can have better chances on the internet.

What gave you that idea? If you struggle finding a Japanese girl in Japan (every other person I see is a woman) then you must be doing something wrong.

This.

dizmox Wrote:

Zon70 Wrote:I was in Japan for a month and a half and couldnt even find a women there, so maybe I can have better chances on the internet.

What gave you that idea? If you struggle finding a Japanese girl in Japan (every other person I see is a woman) then you must be doing something wrong.

Well one, it may be because I didnt have a cellphone or a long term plan to stay in Japan, but I think most of it is because most japanese women are just simply not into gaijin nowadays, not western gaijin anyways, korean men are the new flavor now, to get with women who like that type of man I would have to put on eyeliner and make up and go to hair stylist....and well I just simply am not going to do that.

thank you to the person who posted those links to the 2 sites

Zon70 Wrote:Well one, it may be because I didnt have a cellphone or a long term plan to stay in Japan, but I think most of it is because most japanese women are just simply not into gaijin nowadays, not western gaijin anyways, korean men are the new flavor now, to get with women who like that type of man I would have to put on eyeliner and make up and go to hair stylist....and well I just simply am not going to do that.

By 'women' do you mean 12-year-old girls? Going to a hairstylist wouldn't hurt your chances whoever you're after.

http://www.asiandating.com is supposedly free.

dtcamero Wrote:Admin: I think this thread deserves a sticky

Unless you are being facetious, why? I realize this question gets asked maybe once a year, but I don't find it really sticky worthy.

you can't find a women(sic) in japan so you go on the internet.

whew, that was a good laugh!

I met my J-fiance™ at a bar. haha

alizarine Wrote:Holy shit.

There goes another bit of my faith in humanity.

I wonder what it is about learning Japanese that makes Japanese women such a hot commodity. Being new and exotic? Perceived differences in personality? Constant exposure (often to celebrities)? Over sexualized anime? Or maybe just liking the country makes you idealize everything in it.

Apache Chief Wrote:I wonder what it is about learning Japanese that makes Japanese women such a hot commodity. Being new and exotic? Perceived differences in personality? Constant exposure (often to celebrities)? Over sexualized anime? Or maybe just liking the country makes you idealize everything in it.

All of the above?

Apache Chief Wrote:I wonder what it is about learning Japanese that makes Japanese women such a hot commodity. Being new and exotic? Perceived differences in personality? Constant exposure (often to celebrities)? Over sexualized anime? Or maybe just liking the country makes you idealize everything in it.

I don't know. I think maybe its an extension of "Japan's cool" and by some effect that makes the women more sought after (outside Japan). I will say living in Japan provide a different motivator (for me), and that is the skirts. So many skirts...

On a more serious note though. I don't really understand the attachment to Japanese women so much unless it is because they are somehow connected to the "Japan's cool" fad (as I said above). Personally, if you were to put average Korean or Taiwanese girl next to Japanese girl, I would probably choose the Korean or Taiwanese over the Japanese in beauty. I've seen tons of drop dead gorgeous Taiwanese girls who I swear to this day MUST be models, but apparently they are simple "run-of-the-mill" women in Taiwan...┐(￣▽+￣*)┌?サッパリ

EDIT: People like whats different to them. Regardless of culture or time period. History shows this to be true. Different = Exotic, and will be sought after.

Dang, too bad I have no interest in Taiwanese

Marble101 Wrote:

alizarine Wrote:Holy shit.

There goes another bit of my faith in humanity.

edit: on the other hand, i truly have sympathy for the op. if the criteria for marriage consists of just "a women" from Japan, it must be awfully frustrating to not be able to fulfill such a simple desire, or in fact be able to find a women in Japan at all.

IceCream Wrote:

Marble101 Wrote:

alizarine Wrote:Holy shit.

There goes another bit of my faith in humanity.

edit: on the other hand, i truly have sympathy for the op. if the criteria for marriage consists of just "a women" from Japan, it must be awfully frustrating to not be able to fulfill such a simple desire, or in fact be able to find a women in Japan at all.

He just needs to hook up with a Japanese woman whose criteria for marriage consists of "a man not from Japan". These are pretty common on the internet; they're usually a bit older, decent English and frequent Western dating or "language exchange" sites.

Unfortunately this kind of girl is also likely to want to move to America or Europe, so bit of a catch 22 situation

I used to know a guy who was in his mid-50s and thinking that *this* time for sure he would marry a woman from the right country. He already had at least one failed marriage, to a woman from southeast Asia... I think this time he was trying for a Japanese woman.

He seemed like a sad, sad person.

My sister worked for a guy who constantly flew over to China to meet women he had talked to online. None of them ever worked out, and he was never in a good mood when he came back home. Doesn't seem like a happy or healthy way to pursue love.

aphasiac Wrote:He just needs to hook up with a Japanese woman whose criteria for marriage consists of "a man not from Japan".

"You're not from where I'm from, and I'm not from where you're from?! We have so much in common!"

Jarvik7 Wrote:The very reason they want out of Japan is because they do not like being dominated (by Japanese men they have relationships with or by work & society)

Untrue. Japanese men are, generally, anything but dominating.

Apache Chief Wrote:I wonder what it is about learning Japanese that makes Japanese women such a hot commodity. Being new and exotic? Perceived differences in personality? Constant exposure (often to celebrities)? Over sexualized anime? Or maybe just liking the country makes you idealize everything in it.

I think it is probably because they are different to western women in attitudes.

Apache Chief Wrote:My sister worked for a guy who constantly flew over to China to meet women he had talked to online. None of them ever worked out, and he was never in a good mood when he came back home. Doesn't seem like a happy or healthy way to pursue love.

If he was using pay "dating sites" ie mail order bride services then they were probably scams. The women pretend to be interested, the men pay the company's fees, they fly to the country and then the women have a "change of heart" and decide they don't want to marry the men afterall. Then the company says, "ah it's too bad it didn't work out but we've got someone that we think would be perfect for you." and tries to set them up with someone else and, of course, he has to pay all over again.

ryuudou Wrote:

Jarvik7 Wrote:The very reason they want out of Japan is because they do not like being dominated (by Japanese men they have relationships with or by work & society)

Untrue. Japanese men are, generally, anything but dominating.

All the Japanese women I know who are only interested in foreigners say that it is because they find relationships with Japanese men oppressive.

vix86 Wrote:

Apache Chief Wrote:I wonder what it is about learning Japanese that makes Japanese women such a hot commodity. Being new and exotic? Perceived differences in personality? Constant exposure (often to celebrities)? Over sexualized anime? Or maybe just liking the country makes you idealize everything in it.

I don't know. I think maybe its an extension of "Japan's cool" and by some effect that makes the women more sought after (outside Japan). I will say living in Japan provide a different motivator (for me), and that is the skirts. So many skirts...

On a more serious note though. I don't really understand the attachment to Japanese women so much unless it is because they are somehow connected to the "Japan's cool" fad (as I said above). Personally, if you were to put average Korean or Taiwanese girl next to Japanese girl, I would probably choose the Korean or Taiwanese over the Japanese in beauty. I've seen tons of drop dead gorgeous Taiwanese girls who I swear to this day MUST be models, but apparently they are simple "run-of-the-mill" women in Taiwan...┐(￣▽+￣*)┌?サッパリ

EDIT: People like whats different to them. Regardless of culture or time period. History shows this to be true. Different = Exotic, and will be sought after.

no kidding i myself would totatlly prefer a taiwanese woman over a japanese woman. there are many taiwanese and chinese women were i live and they are so hot. it really is their nose that kind of looks like a pear, that makes them hot, if that makes any sense, but if you look at some of their noses you would know. I wouldnt say the same thing about Korean women though, they do too much plastic surgery and look a bit too creepy for my tastes. lastly, though, despite the hottness of taiwanese girls, in the end a girl from Taiwan isnt going to get me a Japanese visa, so its a no go(unfortunately) for them.

As a white woman in Japan I have been approached by Japanese men who want a foreign girlfriend and I have always found it rather perplexing. I always wonder how they think a foreign woman will be different from a Japanese one. I wonder what their motives are. Do they think a foreign girlfriend would be "cool"? Have they heard some kind of silly stereotype that foreign women are easy? Do they want to practice their English? If a Japanese man says right out that he wants a foreign girlfriend then that would be an automatic turnoff for me.

A while ago I posted a quick introduction on another forum for foreign women in Japan in which I said I was an American woman living in Japan and married to a Japanese man yada yada yada. And I actually got an email from a Japanese guy basically saying, "It's my goal in life to marry an American. Can you tell me how you met your husband? Do I need to move to America to meet an American woman? Please tell me how I can find an American wife." Well, I won't say it was creepy as much as just odd. Why an American? What does he think that means to be married to an American? I don't know but I got the impression that he watched too many American movies and thought that we all were a bunch of Cameron Diazes and Jennifer Lopezes and that we all drove Mercedes and shopped on Rodeo Drive. He obviously had some idea in his head that American women are_________ and was looking for a woman to fit that image.

If this is how the OP is coming off to Japanese women then I doubt he will ever find someone. No person wants the job of fitting into someone else's preconceived notions of who they should be and they especially don't want to the job of fulfilling the other person's sterotypes of that entire culture.

And for the record, I have no problem with people only being physically attracted to people of a certain race. Most people have strong racial preferences it's just that most people are only attracted to their own race so nobody thinks anything of it. Being open to dating someone regardless of race is actually very rare. It's just when you like a certain race because you believe certain stereotypes that go along with it that the problem comes in, I think.

Zon70 Wrote:despite the hottness of taiwanese girls, in the end a girl from Taiwan isnt going to get me a Japanese visa, so its a no go(unfortunately) for them.

gosh, i think they'll be slitting their wrists over this loss.

bwhaha this thread is hilarious!!

To the OP - if you haven't already, go to gaijinpot. Alot of posters there are in the same boat as you there; you'll get more helpful advise than from this site (primarily a language forum):

http://forum.gaijinpot.com/forumdisplay....ationships