I downloaded Core 10 but it seems that the sentences are not organized in the Core 2000,6000 order, so I am getting difficult and easy sentences all mixed up. Is this deck for people that have already completed Core and just want to have everything in one deck or am I doing something wrong?

I'm not familiar with the Core 2000/6000 order, but this deck uses the Japanese Sensei iTunes app order, which is divided into beginner and advanced groups. So the first few kanji start out like this:

人　日　月　本　一　上

but the ordering does have kanji compounds fairly quickly in the sequence, if the words are "beginner" words (like 電話 or 写真).

This deck may be most useful for people using JSensei, who want to add notes to the deck and use SRS to learn the material. It includes all Core 2K, 6K, and 10K words and sentences*. There's also the shared deck "Japanese Core 10,000 sans 2K6K with audio" containing only the words and sentences not contained in the iKnow Core 2K/6K set, which contains all advanced words and sentences.


*(There are some slight differences in some of the JSensei 2K and 6K sentences compared to the iKnow Core, but they are minor--the Levenshtein distance is a good metric to compare the JSensei and iKnow Core sentences.)

bcrAn Wrote:I downloaded Core 10 but it seems that the sentences are not organized in the Core 2000,6000 order, so I am getting difficult and easy sentences all mixed up. Is this deck for people that have already completed Core and just want to have everything in one deck or am I doing something wrong?

I'm not exactly sure but there was never an "official" version of core10k at least. I'm soon (30 days!) done with core6k (this is about 5881 unique words). I had the link to the spreadsheet of core10k floating around here for awhile, but cannot find it right now... katsuo?

Tori-kun Wrote:I'm not exactly sure but there was never an "official" version of core10k at least. I'm soon (30 days!) done with core6k (this is about 5881 unique words). I had the link to the spreadsheet of core10k floating around here for awhile, but cannot find it right now... katsuo?

I'm not sure if there is an official version of Core 10K, but if you want Katsuo's stamp of approval, he went through the entire deck and verified it.

You could just use morphology (search the forum) to put them in order based on what you know.

Splatted Wrote:You could just use morphology (search the forum) to put them in order based on what you know.

Yes, although at that point you might as well replace core10k with a more interesting corpus.

Despite the effort spent on extracting core10k, I've stopped using it as I've come to the conclusion that standard word lists aren't useful anymore given our current tools (namely subs2srs + MorphMan).

At least, morphological analysis shows the core lists are inefficient for the type of vocabulary I care about. Of course, if your interests lie in Japanese for Boring People, you might want to do a quick check with MorphMan to see how core compares against the words you want to learn (eg, make a union of all your subs2srs deck dbs + dbs from novels/articles you want to read, etc).

Personally I've ditched core and have switched to primarily subs2srs sentences ordered in terms of difficulty by MorphMan.