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None of your links support what you are saying. Work on reading comprehension.

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Yeah, that does't say what you apparently think it does.

It says that a characteristic of slang is the same as a characteristic of jargon in that their use is limited to defined groups. It doesn't say slang = jargon.

Both my car and clouds share the characteristic of being white. My car is not a cloud.

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Read this 11 times:

The most significant characteristic of slang overlaps with a defining characteristic of jargon

Things can share characteristics without equalling each other.

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What? Did you change your argument to say that slang and jargon are not equal now?

Actually dialect could represent what you originally wanted to say, but only in the context of an academic linguistics discussion. You could speak of the social dialect of gyaru etc.

Interestingly the term "social dialect" itself is jargon used by linguists. It's not something that would be understood by a layman.

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That's nice and all, but they would not overlap in this case.

merlin.codex Wrote:Many people use such phrases (「普通に難しい」、「普通に解らない」、「普通にいい」, etc...) although they are considered to be jargon.

×jargon
○slang
○social dialect

Overlap is more in areas such as terminology used by athletes, musicians, criminals, etc. - not the ever changing wordplay used by gyaru and such

You could of course just admit that you made a mistake instead of turning into a petulant child throwing personal insults.

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Here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learni...ge19.shtml

I hope the head of an English graduate department at the University of London knows what he's talking about.

Going to sleep..

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I don't think jargon and slang are the same thing either. They share some qualities, but what gets used in the literature articles I read is jargon, not slang.

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What a goofy thread. Is this thread trying to be a fool? Very well thread, I shall stoop to responding to you and show you where you are wrong. It is so sad that I must explain this to you, thread, how silly you must feel now that I have revealed your ignorance.

Oh come on, don't stop, this is entertaining.

My vote is merlin.codex is being a deliberate troll. They started out reasonable-ish, but seriously, arguing with multiple educated native english speakers about the definition of an english word... contradicting the definitions given in their own links?

Are you even a native speaker? Your location says Bulgaria. Are you an english speaker that has moved there or are you honestly a bulgarian who is arguing with natives?? Why??

The words jargon and slang aren't even remotely synonymous. Their usage can overlap in some contexts, but not in common speech, and not in the one you used it in.

Edit: Oh and jargon doesn't mean groups are trying to hide their knowledge. That's asinine. In fact, there's probably more of that sort of motivation behind slang than jargon.

普通に〜 wasn't invented by 2ch users anyways. It's a typical example of youth slang

You could argue that the あげ・さげ of Japanese bbs are jargon though..

I wouldn't bother arguing with merlin.codex if I were you. s/he apparently likes to make wrong statements (which is fine) and then start backpedaling/bullshitting when you demonstrate s/he's wrong (not cool). First saying Japanese native speakers are using incorrect Japanese, and now trying to school native English speakers on the definition of english words...

Ironically, I started this thread as a "Politeness level question." :/

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